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Thread: We can't fight. We can't run. Were being 1 shotted. Isn't it time to remove forced Pvp?

-Darkstarr-
Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:21 pm
#53






MsNiL wrote:





Ares112 wrote:
There has to be risk to jedi butwe should have abilities to counter these non-jedi attacks. I think that most people are going to have to practice and really get great at their particular temp but its going to take time. This patch just cameout and before most know how to play against these new abilities they are calling for a nerf. funny if you ask me. ADAPT and find ways around it. If keepingyour character off the terms is the way to go then do it.



Blablahblahblahblah.


It's time to dump the BH system and stop forcing people into cookie cutter templates for casual play.







Do you think before posting?



Remove Jedi from the terminals. This will result in


1) Jedi being removed from normal pvp


2) Jedi being forced lower in strength because they no longer have a death penalty by BH's







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-Darkstarr-
Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:25 pm
#54

Removed for trolling.

Message Edited by Nadias on 10-23-2005 10:57 AM





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klognok
Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:45 pm
#55

Bottom line is when you become a jedi you agreed to forced pvp.no if ands or buts.no matter how unbalanced it is, it is what you said you would go threw to be a jedi.if forced pvp is not for you then don't play your jedi.pretty simple.



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Farenheit
Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:46 pm
#56






klognok wrote:
Bottom line is when you become a jedi you agreed to forced pvp.no if ands or buts.no matter how unbalanced it is, it is what you said you would go threw to be a jedi.if forced pvp is not for you then don't play your jedi.pretty simple.





Forced pvp was relavent when 5 bh's could take us on, and we had a fair chance of winning that encounter.


Today, one bh with an AFK SQUAD LEADER , over powered heals and weapons way better than ANY LIGHT SABER are one shotting jedi down like dogs in a slaughter house.


Forced pvp's time has come and gone.



1) Nerfed by the CU - Annoyed

2) SWG destroyed by the NGE - Pisssed

3) Cancellation to nerf the dev's pay check, priceless!!
Farenheit
Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:49 pm
#57






DoctorFett wrote:
HA HA nice wish.......I wouldsee the whole jedi proffession earased, beforetheygot rid of the BHs main source of income,





BH are getting richer FASTER off npc missions and phat loot..... Jedi are no longer their main source of income.



1) Nerfed by the CU - Annoyed

2) SWG destroyed by the NGE - Pisssed

3) Cancellation to nerf the dev's pay check, priceless!!
xEPICx
Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:56 pm
#58






klognok wrote:
Bottom line is when you become a jedi you agreed to forced pvp.no if ands or buts.no matter how unbalanced it is, it is what you said you would go threw to be a jedi.if forced pvp is not for you then don't play your jedi.pretty simple.





I agree.
CURBhater
Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:57 pm
#59

If you cant handle forced pvp,then delete your Jedi

Just balance the snare changes,SL buffs.

Or just revert to old snares




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MsNiL
Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:30 pm
#60





-Darkstarr- wrote:
2) Jedi being forced lower in strength because they no longer have a death penalty by BH's


Cant be less than x1.0 and we are there already.


A lightsaber is only your reward for the work done now. There's no more balance needed since Jedi are equal to regular players.




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MsNiL
Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:31 pm
#61





CURBhater wrote:
If you cant handle forced pvp,then delete your Jedi

Just balance the snare changes,SL buffs.

Or just revert to old snares



Look at that...

Years of waiting, and now you ask to nerf SquadLeaders just becouse of the BH system...




--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
cahn-a-licious
Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:32 pm
#62






Ares112 wrote:
There has to be risk to jedi butwe should have abilities to counter these non-jedi attacks. I think that most people are going to have to practice and really get great at their particular temp but its going to take time. This patch just cameout and before most know how to play against these new abilities they are calling for a nerf. funny if you ask me. ADAPT and find ways around it. If keepingyour character off the terms is the way to go then do it.





luckily no one did



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QuiJonOz
Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:02 pm
#63

I think the Devs need to give all Jedi the option for a one time respec out of Jedi back to normal x1 professions, because if Jedi are as bad off as some claim they should jump at the chance to get out and keep their second character slot. But I don't think they are overall as bad off as some claim... I still see Jedi dominate PvP and PvE.


I suspect few would take it. I also suspect the SL issue will be balanced, most likely so that a BH can't benefit from them while doing a Jedi mission.


Jedi knew there would be PvP and that they would be hunted by BH. And BH missions against Jedi have been nerfed. Just like permadeath was nerfed, just like saber-tef was nerfed. But some Jedi hate the fact that if they are hanging out in front of the Theed starport showing off their l33t p0w3rs some BH may open up on them and actually take them down.


It's called Order 66. If you don't like it, quit showing off.


That being said, I think the Jedi need ways to manage their visibility to encourage them to stay out of sight.


1) A Jedi should be able to view their own visibility


2) Jedi should be informed on how visibility works.


3) The only NPCs that should give visibility are faction and city NPCs (and by city I mean all NPC cities/outposts).


4) Visibility should decay appreciably while logged off or logged on the alt.


5) Jedi should not gain visibility while under BH tef.


6) Visibility should be cleared upon death to a BH.


7) A Jedi that does not have his saber equipped, does not have a Jedi title showing, is not wearing Jedi robes and is not using Force powers should not gain visibility.


A large part of the Jedi population problem is due to perception. If people don't see Jedi, they don't perceive a problem. If they don't perceive a problem, there is less Jedi hate.


Oh yeah, and take Jedi out of the GCW and give them their own Light and Dark (Guardian and Sith?) PvP factions.





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Fix the economy and give crafters their $$$ worth... give us real revamp.

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Nastypope
Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:04 pm
#64






klognok wrote:

nope.we need the risk.i also feel they should double the xp loss.as fast as we can grind xp now the bh risk is just about worthless.it's no more than a small bump in the road on the way to a full temp.





Whats this dude smoeking nerf after nerf and he want more XP loss!



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Blackmercenary
Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:14 pm
#65


No its not time to remove it, its time to fix jedi. Simple as that.



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