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Thread: Thoughts on the MCM/MBH problem
blademaster30 wrote:
Puttley wrote:
Its the saying i like the very least but in regards to this repeated Nerf call i've never said it before and i'm not proud to now
CRY MORE NOOB
learn your proffession. its very easy difference is the BHs with CM know theirs and you don't know yours PERIODMessage Edited by Puttley on 09-13-2005 09:14 AM
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in my opinion thats exactly why forced pvp between jedi and bounty hunters should just be completely and totally done away with. Leave pvp for those that feel so inclined to get involved in it. It just causes way to much strife and contention and opens way to many avenues for harassement and greifing by both professions.
glim3mer wrote:
Your on crack.
First off you assume we are all FOTM Jedi. Second off you assume that most Jedi are noobs with no skills.
Now... First thing is first... Your off topic. We are not talking about someone ability to play here, we are talking about CM having the ability to heal 3 times in 6 seconds vs Jedi healing once every 6 seconds.
So back to the point.... as CM's you either support us in getting Jedi Heals Un-Nerfed OR we nerf your profession. Its that simple. Jedi needs healing balance for PvP and PvE. Yes most of us can beat a BH/Cm but thats not the point here. Get on topic please.
Puttley wrote:
Its the saying i like the very least but in regards to this repeated Nerf call i've never said it before and i'm not proud to now
CRY MORE NOOB
learn your proffession. its very easy difference is the BHs with CM know theirs and you don't know yours PERIOD
Message Edited by Puttley on 09-13-2005 09:14 AM
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DrNeek wrote:
The problem is here
Combat Medic Heals > Jedi Damage
A CM can heal for 2700 in 4 seconds, eating 20% of his abilities pool. In addition there is a 2 second wait after the 2nd heal before the CM can attack again. SO, this means that the CM is vulnerable for 6 seconds ...
In 6 seconds a Jedi can deal 3600 worth of damage on the CM.
A Jedi can heal for 1500 in 6 seconds, eating 2% of his abilities pool ...
In 6 seconds a CM can deal 500 damage on the Jedi (4 shots at 250 damage each, missing 50% of the time).
glim3mer wrote:
OhBuggah wrote:
glim3mer wrote:
I disagree. Its much easier to get CM nerfed them Jedi Healer fixed. Im with original poster on this. Nerf CM.Adapt improve and overcome can and will be said to CM once they get nerfed.Seriously... imbalanced. One prof gets 3 heals with no timer delays, and another gets 1 with a timer. This game is based on healing.... they need to un-nerf jedi healing or nerf everyother healing prof in-game, that simple.
What a load of crap. In pratical use there are only two heals for CM's: Bacta Toss and Bacta Spray ... anything else is redundant. Also, Jedi don't need to heal as much as a CM because the CM has a much much MUCH lower DPS than Jedi ... i.e, a CM can hit a Jedi for 200 each 1-2 seconds while a Jedi can hit a CM for 500-600 each 1-2 seconds.Also, a CM/BH's mind regen isn't what these Jedi characterize it to be. If the Jedi deals damage on the BH/CM fast enough he will get stuck in a heal loop and will run out of mind in a couple of minutes.The real problem is that FotM Jedi like yourselves choose a very top-heavy Jedi template that isn't very well-rounded. You all choose a template that is super super powerful in offense/defense, but only moderately powerful in the healing/enhancing. A Jedi with Force Speed and a good saber will chew up ANY BH and spit him out. A Jedi with Force Speed and Force Sap will wipe the floor with ANY CM/BH.The real MCM/MBH solution is to fight them with Jedi who know what they're doing. The problem is that there are A LOT of Jedi running around, and thus with any large population of people there is a large amount mediocrity.The problem is not MCM/BM ... the problem is the large amount of no-skill-having n00b Jedi who think defeating a BH should be about pressing F8 over and over and over and over again and not fight with skill and thought.
Your on crack.First off you assume we are all FOTM Jedi. Second off you assume that most Jedi are noobs with no skills.Now... First thing is first... Your off topic. We are not talking about someone ability to play here, we are talking about CM having the ability to heal 3 times in 6 seconds vs Jedi healing once every 6 seconds.So back to the point.... as CM's you either support us in getting Jedi Heals Un-Nerfed OR we nerf your profession. Its that simple. Jedi needs healing balance for PvP and PvE. Yes most of us can beat a BH/Cm but thats not the point here. Get on topic please.
I have to agree with OhBuggah on this, he is correct about the "large amount" of Jedi lacking in skill to fight a BH/CM since I meet several everyday, he did not say "most". A Jedi has the damage dealing advantage to a CM but a CM has the ability to "control" you just like a pistoleer or pikeman could and you have to act fast before he gets to fully have you under his or her arms and take the fight to their advantage. Most Jedi do not realize the right tactic against a combat medic.
Also, I forgot to mention ...
Yes, a BH/CM can do 3 heals back to back in 8 seconds. But, I've fought MANY Jedi, and I can tell you this: if you've got the BH hitting just two back to back heals, then that means he's almost dead. No good BH will ever do this when he's winning because just two back to back heals will get you stuck in a heal loop. It's the same for when Jedi hit Avoid Incap. If a Jedi hits Avoid Incap it's almost over for him.