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Thread: TO POST CU JEDI :

Digitalalchemyzt
Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:05 am
#53

well. i agree with nan. they did earn it.
sas-quatch
Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:53 am
#54


nanukkk wrote:

POST-CU jedi had the easiest way. We, the PRE9 Jedi had the hardest way. It's our privilege to have perfect sabers. And yes, it's true, you cannot kill a skilled/well equiped BH without a good saber. I myself kill them easily, they simply don't stand a chance. I can put them into stasis every time i want to, run away, but most of the times they die in 1-3 minutes. I have to admit that, i'd not be able to kill them that fast without my no-SAC 788 dps saber. Too bad the sabers are not tradable, since i have 2 more sabers, both of them 700+ dmg / 700++ dps 10-13FC no-SAC ADKd i could help some friends out

i think it would be fair, if the devs put the new FRS and the new pearls into the game. it's about damn time. It's been for 6 months, dammit.




i agree with this point here.

pre-9 jedi and even pre cu jedi all have the better sabers. and rightly so. i just think that this sepratist attitude some of these older jedi(and not you nan you didnt show that in this post ) stinks worse then bantha poodoo. to all thouse that have perfect sabers and STILL **edit** about how jedi is now, be happy you have the weapons you do and buck up and stop being jerks. we are ALL in the same boat skillwise. accept it and try to improve what we have. living in the past will only make you weaker

**edited for spelling and language**

Message Edited by sas-quatch on 10-07-2005 09:56 AM



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sas-quatch
Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:16 am
#55



DarkLordXoni wrote:

we had it easy? jedi post cu had it harder not flaming or arguing just stating my opinion. I remember those days when u would go grind xp on your own, its so much different now. I remeber trying to grind out 1mill xp solo, haha that would take quite a while, the good old days hehe. I hope star wars galaxies gets there act together and does make us 1.5x stronger as a knight and up with the frs...because currently bounty hunters say, "wahahha we can kill the hardest jedi"....i laugh ROFL when i hear this cuz no bounty hunter can kill a knight or higher. maybe the bh's will whine and cry some more and the devs will nerf us more so they can havea fighting chance, lol, or maybe the devs will finally realize they need to fix our profession and not shaft us .

To any jedi who have questions about there profession im always here to help, cuz we were all beginner jedi at one point, and i would 100% rather help any jedi out than a bounty hunter hehe

may the force be with you




/tiphat

need more jedi like y ou.

im only 2 months old and already starting to fall into this pattern. as i know a few paddies new then myself

so helping is much better then b**lbusting



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nanukkk
Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:37 am
#56






DarkLordXoni wrote:

we had it easy? jedi post cu had it harder not flaming or arguing just stating my opinion. I remember those days when u would go grind xp on your own, its so much different now. I remeber trying to grind out 1mill xp solo, haha that would take quite a while, the good old days hehe. I hope star wars galaxies gets there act together and does make us 1.5x stronger as a knight and up with the frs...because currently bounty hunters say, "wahahha we can kill the hardest jedi"....i laugh ROFL when i hear this cuz no bounty hunter can kill a knight or higher. maybe the bh's will whine and cry some more and the devs will nerf us more so they can havea fighting chance, lol, or maybe the devs will finally realize they need to fix our profession and not shaft us .


To any jediwho have questions about there profession im always here to help, cuz we were allbeginner jedi at one point, and i would 100% rather helpany jedi out than a bounty hunter hehe



may the force be with you






you were not around those times, when the jedi used a pistole to collect a bounch of rancors around them,because a flurry took 10% of our force bar...and when we were sitting right next to the damaged lair waiting our forcebar to replenish for forcethrowing the lair for that 5K extra jedi xp. That was killer, i almost went mad grinding the apprentice box.
DarkLordXoni
Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:28 am
#57

nanukkk,


i agree with u entirley. ive been playing swg's for 2-3 yrs just not on this same charc. i played on a friends for the first 1.2 yrs. But i agree with what u are saying the pre-9 guys had it rough. /tiphat to themost dedicated people in the game. /salute




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Gohma_Manovich
Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:55 am
#58

or you could be a pore-cu jedi who grinded to finish the template before CU and therefore not get any decent pearls



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DW-Acer
Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:22 am
#59

to whoever said that "everyone can go grind on kash in a group" ....


the point was, pre9's couldn't. If they finished their grind, and most of us did, it was in the much harder and slower system. Sure, we could go grind now, but why would we?



I know plenty of post cu jedi, and post 9 jedi, and have no problems with any of them. Sure, I can remenisce with other pre9's, but that's about it. It doesn't make anyone better or worse than anyone else. I'm not a better Jedi because I once walked around Endor in Composite armor.


But does it mean that some of us have much more experience and know how to use our skills and tools better? Probably. We got really good at running away from the 20 man gank groups with 1 BH in them. We learned all kinds of tricks. But I've never come across a Jedi who wouldn't give plenty of advice if you just asked. There seems to be an awful lot of hate between pre9 and Post CU jedi on the forums, but has anyone really ever had a problem with it in-game?


The pearl issue sucks, no way around that. Hopefully something is changed in that regard to allow the newer jedi to compete with the others as far as quality and damage of sabers goes.


The Jedi that unlocked via the village need to stop thinking everyone hates them. The only evidence I see of people not liking the Post village unlocks are when the post village unlocks start screaming about how they had it bad too. Then it becomes a pissing match about who had it worse. Well, it's really simple. Grind-wise, the Pre9's got the shaft. No groups, saber tef, perma death, and solo grinding was a reality for a lot of us. Some of the early village unlocks experienced some of this stuff. effectiveness-wise, the post CU jedi got the shaft. Pearls got screwed, abilities were changed, and all of the sudden it's harder to stand up to a BH than it used to be.


Best advice: FR2 and/or Cloak. Actually, best advice would be to just die to the BH and get off the terms. Then stay off. with no group vis, it means you're acting stupidly to be on the terms while you're still grinding. Pay your dues, move on with your grind, and finish up. Then hope they fix the pearls.


good luck guys.






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Digitalalchemyzt
Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:40 am
#60

pistol. dont hate cuz you dont have. its very ugly. also. be nice to nerds, cuz one day u may end up working for one. Bill Gates, Linus Torvalds. Both make more than u ever will.


Anyway, later hateraide...


nanukkk
Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:06 pm
#61

POST-CU jedi had the easiest way. We, the PRE9 Jedi had the hardest way. It's our privilege to have perfect sabers. And yes, it's true, you cannot kill a skilled/well equiped BH without a good saber. I myself kill them easily, they simply don't stand a chance. I can put them into stasis every time i want to, run away, but most of the times they die in 1-3 minutes. I have to admit that, i'd not be able to kill them that fast without my no-SAC 788 dps saber. Too bad the sabers are not tradable, since i have 2 more sabers, both of them 700+ dmg / 700++ dps 10-13FC no-SAC ADKd i could help some friends out


i think it would be fair, if the devs put the new FRS and the new pearls into the game. it's about damn time. It's been for 6 months, dammit.


Blackmercenary
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:38 pm
#62




I thought your post was very positive towards the future of jedi, right now our lightsaber speed is broken, premium pearls are no longer dropping, and the FRS has not even been announced. Often times I forget that jedi is not suppose to be in the state it is.Ican only hopewhen all of these fixes come we will be 1.5 times more powerful then a regular char.


On the issue of post-CU jedi thinking its harder to become jedi now. I am a pre-9 jedi, I have experienced every state of the jedi profession since its been playable. Pre-9 anytime I ignited my saber any imperial overt or covert could attack me. Imagine how that would be, not only do you have to fear BH's, but you have to fear regular characters of the opposing faction. The day publish 9 hit, I got killed by a mokk learning how the new jedi system worked, I lost XP for that learning experience. Any time you died pre-cu you lost experience, and when a BH killed you, you lost even more experience. You learned real quick what you could and could not do.


Post-CU all forms of XP debt have been removed apart of BH debt; not only that but group visibility is gone. If you a smart jedi and only show your saber to group members you can never get visibility, and never be hunted. Pre-CU we never had that option, its was grind alone in a solo group for hours. I remember when getting 500k jedi XP in 4 hours was moving. I grinded a friend's characters FS XP in 2 weeks so that he might become a jedi. Pre-9, I grinded 32 professions to unlock jedi and that took me 5-6 months of hard grinding. Think about it, everytime you master a profession you have to drop it, and become a noob again, you loose everything you built up. Grinding out every crafting profession in the game cost me millions, with the new grind you actually make money, your not dropping skills, your not paying to retrain them, your not buying new weapons, and resources. Some might argue that doctor was easily afked, sure I will give you that argument, but it cost money, stims were not free nor the resources.


Jedi has become easier today and we have seen a surge of new jedi. The glory days of jedi are over, the days of people awing over 4/4/4/4 guardians. I had so much fun fighting against them with my guildmates, its because they were rare and powerful. I do agree that things must change, make XP harder for jedi its just to easy now. With degree of difficulty also comes power, maybe if jedi was harder they would feel more inclined to fix it. Take what I have said how you would like, I harbor no hard feelings against new jedi, but when it comes to the facts, new jedi have it easy. Flame away.


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Message Edited by Blackmercenary on 10-07-2005 06:13 PM



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whitestar19
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:31 pm
#63

Excellent Post Blackmercenary. The village ruined the Jedi profession for good. It should of never happened the way it came out. People got Jedi WAAAAAAAAAAY to easy with the grenade XP exploit and then the CU was a joke. I had guildmates finish the village and then reach full template in during the first two weeks of teh CU. They made Jedi easy to get and therefore Jedi got nerfed and will continue to get nerfed. The glory days are over. Thanks.

What system would of been better?

1) Grind out a mixture of 15-25 professions.
2) Get 5 content badges and the POIs.
3) Have an active account for six months.
4) Goto the village with no unlocked branches and unlock and train up 6 branches with double the XP requriements.
5) Padawan Trials
6) Become a Jedi. Because of the CU, double the XP requirements for each box.

Now that's a great system! Course, so was the grind 32 profession one.



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Elisar
Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:13 pm
#64






Dantorikan wrote:

Well I think the one thing post CU FS/jedi, and pre Cu jedi can agree on, is that it is waaay too easy to become Force Sensitive....so make that harder, the village takes plenty of time in and of itself. It is a shame that there are such low lvl people getting glowie.




actually it's always been easy to unlock your jedi... it was just time consuming... and once holocrons hit.. it was just a matter of time... Thats what everyone is missing.. it's never been 'hard' it just took longer.



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Blackmercenary
Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:56 pm
#65


Something your missing is the fact that even with holocrons there were so many rumors about how to unlock, no one knew. The first jedi had mastered only 5 professions, she was given jedi basically. Since she only mastered 5 professions and other people after her were mastering 10-16 no one knew if they were missing part of the formula. Now everything is set out before you, there is no mystery. When you hit the 20+ range you start wondering if your missing something. The not knowing when you would unlock made it hard to, each time you mastered a profession and did not unlock it was depressing especially in the higher ranges.


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