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Thread: A Primer on Jedi Templates (Revised and Updated 9/18)

jamesofett
Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:13 am
#53

Very good guide - 5 stars for you



## Jamesoo -Fett ##
Elder Dark Jedi
HavelockVetinari
Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:13 am
#54






-Ferox- wrote:

Can you link me to the post where a notable community member went with master defender master sabers 4004 enhancer? I'm serioulsy considering this template and I think he and I may be on the same page. My idea is that it's as difficult to stand through a dizzy as it is to clear states and stand before another dizzy hits you forcing you to flop. The idea behind the build is each and everytime you decide to engage, anywhere at any time you've got almost 5 straight minutes of avoid incap before you start to hurt for force. Since you're running a 25 second avoid incap macro to ensure it's never off you have zero need for heals of any kind. When your force gets to about 25% you hit up force run 2 and escape the hot zone and channel/meditate to full while the doc's tend to your wounds. 3 minutes of down time and you're right back into the fight busting up turrets and making life impossible for ranged enemies as you force run 1 around the battlefield literally invincible for 5 minute intervals.






Renairdor has this template. The problem with this is that you can't Avoid Incap while KDed, so it's risky. In addition, intimidate will land on you pretty much every time, and blind and stun will further eviscerate your DPS. Of course Ren knows the template better than me, so there may be ways around this I can't see. I'm curious to hear at least the basic mechanics of how he makes it work.



Bloodfin's Master Defender (retired)
Proud alumnus of FIGHT
HavelockVetinari
Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:43 am
#55






xycadambomb wrote:





HavelockVetinari wrote:



I've written this short overview of key skills and popular templates to offer some guidance to those who must make the big choice.




R i g h t. Nice guide buddy, I appreciate it.









Bloodfin's Master Defender (retired)
Proud alumnus of FIGHT
HavelockVetinari
Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:01 pm
#56






Zyla wrote:
actually this is my anti-stacker template, it also works wonders in pvp, if i had enough force i could easily take elders and krayts down solo, cuz of warcry and intimidate. and against stackers, warcry, intimidate, stun and stuff... you can literally stalemate them completely if you wanted to.

crap forgot to quote post... was pointing out my mls 4004 heal 4004 def 0003 enh novice brawler template

Message Edited by Zyla on 09-12-2004 12:20 AM





Thanks Zyla. I added some of your comments to the post.



Bloodfin's Master Defender (retired)
Proud alumnus of FIGHT
HavelockVetinari
Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:00 pm
#57






-Ferox- wrote:

I just asked our master defender in my guild and he said he can definetly avoid incap while dizzy/knockdowned.






Excellent. Good to know, thx.



Bloodfin's Master Defender (retired)
Proud alumnus of FIGHT
IrritationX
Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:43 pm
#58

Which do you allfeel would be a more effective method of managing states against you, the proactive (Defense 0004) or reactive (Healing 0004) approach? Has anyone had experience with both lines separately, and with using both lines together?


The templates I'm looking at right now are:


Master Lightsaber

Healing 4204

Enhance 3004

Defense 4000


or


Master Lightsaber

Healing 4204

Enhance 3004

Defense 0004


or


Master Lightsaber

Healing 4200

Enhance 3004

Defense 4004







Mar-Wan Ral - Elder Jedi
Imperial Lance Corporal & Inquisition Pilot
Caliga Lapsus - BH
Civilian - RSF Pilot

Who should I hate?
The One-Click Jedi for the ease of his path?
The Elder for wanting his to be the only path?

nuterr
Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:12 pm
#59

Extremely helpful. Thanks.
Zyla
Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:04 pm
#60



IrritationX wrote:
Which do you allfeel would be a more effective method of managing states against you, the proactive (Defense 0004) or reactive (Healing 0004) approach? Has anyone had experience with both lines separately, and with using both lines together?
The templates I'm looking at right now are:
Master Lightsaber
Healing 4204
Enhance 3004
Defense 4000
or
Master Lightsaber
Healing 4204
Enhance 3004
Defense 0004
or
Master Lightsaber
Healing 4200
Enhance 3004
Defense 4004





No point in forcespeed 2 if you are MLS



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Anirul
Jedi Knight - Eclipse
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IrritationX
Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:07 pm
#61







Zyla wrote:
No point in forcespeed 2 if you are MLS





Heard somewhere that it can reduce the healing delay. Is this not accurate?






Mar-Wan Ral - Elder Jedi
Imperial Lance Corporal & Inquisition Pilot
Caliga Lapsus - BH
Civilian - RSF Pilot

Who should I hate?
The One-Click Jedi for the ease of his path?
The Elder for wanting his to be the only path?

-Ferox-
Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:10 pm
#62






IrritationX wrote:






Zyla wrote:
No point in forcespeed 2 if you are MLS






Heard somewhere that it can reduce the healing delay. Is this not accurate?









This is something I very much would like to know as well. Does force speed 2 reduce the healing delay.







WONKA
JediJamie
Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:21 pm
#63

I think I have got the templent I want to go for


Master LS

Healer 4 4 0 4

Enhancment 4 4 0 4


I should be pretty well rounded like this.. even if I do have to give up some of Master Defender...


What do ya think ?







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and Founder of The Light of Ossus
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Dseven0
Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:10 pm
#64






JediJamie wrote:

I think I have got the templent I want to go for


Master LS

Healer 4 4 0 4

Enhancment 4 4 0 4


I should be pretty well rounded like this.. even if I do have to give up some of Master Defender...


What do ya think ?






I am considering this template as well. I am also considering:


MLS

Healer 4004

Enhancer 4204

Powers 0030 (for effective pve intimidate)



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Marsirion
Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:12 pm
#65

"Master sabers 4004 heal 4200 enhance 4003 defender"


Does anyone know if this is better in defence than having force armor 2?


(Master sabers, 4404 enhance, 4304 heal, nov defender)
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