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Thread: What is the best template against BH besides running?

Tricerix
Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:31 am
#53

Finish grinding and get a good saber.........................when youj are grinding you are so gimp you may as well run or use your sword/pistol/poisons.
GunFu
Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:29 am
#54

Ok guys, Im now MLS/healer 4000/enh 2002/def 0040 and working on going def 4440. My saber is 620 max dmg. I got my first BH last night and luckily he wasnt CM. I snared him, saber throw, and dervished 4 times and that was it. But, about 3 hours later a MBH/MCM came, I ended up running because I just couldnt do anything, he healed all my dmg. I almost had him and he healed all the way to full, it was crazy. So I ran to my safe house, lol.



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ValinCalred
Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:33 am
#55

mpwrs, 0404 ls, 3402 enh, 4000 heal, kd choke destroys non jedi




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GunFu
Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:35 am
#56

But my guild jedi are at war with another jedi guild. So I would get wasted with MP against another jedi. I love powers but they just are not viable against other jedi.



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GunFu
Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:41 am
#57

Its really disappointing, from the books that Ive read most jedi were pwned by dark force powers. I really wanted to go MLS/MP/healer 3000/enh 0002 but after seeing it in action I didnt.



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Saereth
Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:58 am
#58


Mpower/3002enhancer/4040 healer/0044 defender. Sap, choke, keep them out of Dot range.




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Mistwaver
Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:20 am
#59

MLS/MD/3000H/0002E here, and I just laugh at BH's as I block every one of their attacks. Eventually, they juat drop the mission and run off.

The only ones I really have a concern in the back of my mind about is other Jedi and some of the TKM/MS/4000 Doc stackers.



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jobothehobbit
Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:39 am
#60


LOL if ranged def wasn't bugged, LOL. Hopefully everyone has seen the post regarding this. I shall repeat it regardless...

Ranged Def ONLY helps if YOU are ranged. AKA using a ranged Weapon.


Melee Def ONLY helps if YOU are Melee. AKA saber or other Melee weapon.


These statements have been tested repeatdly on every server I know. Don't waste SPs on the X4XX tree in Def if you're not also gettig it for the Innate Armor or going MD. Also don't bother w/ ranged Def. Foods. Test it yourself, most ppl have modified their templates b/c of this. To my knowledge this isn't working as intended, but infact a bug. Of course the XXX4 tree in Def still ups your blocking, combined w/ MLS and vayorblock food, you will be much harder to hit.


So, just to be Very clear on this, Ive been taking thunder ranged defense drink for nothing?


that unless im currently holding a ranged weapon IN my hand, ranged defense is not added in ANY way what so ever?


What IS Aura then, when It adds +500 ranged and melee defense? Cuz I KNOW that the aura defense IS helping vs ranged. Please to clearify.






Ya, it's upping your melee def. Melee and ranged def are messed up, you need to think of them in dif. terms. You have been wasting the foods, as upping your ranged def does nothing for you, unless you're using a ranged weapon. Here is the deal. Just think of it as 2 def numbers. You have 200 ranged def. and 250 melee. So your def when you are unarmed/melee is higher. It's like switching weapons from a pistol and a rifle. Rifle def only helps while you are using the rifle. Same goes for Melee/Ranged def now. As for Aura, it adds to both, so you should use that on a looping macro.
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No, No. I mean against ranged BH. when I put aura on, +500, it DEFINATELY helps. and Im still holding LS.

this HAS to be increased ranged defense vs thier ranged weapon. Theres No way I can think of that increased Melee def is helping out VS BH. Please to Clearify. ALARIA.






He's already clarified it. Aura gives +500 defense. That affects both ranged and melee defense. Only the melee side of it is working. Defense is stupidly based off the weapon YOU are holding, not the weapon the attacker is holding.


Your thundercloud does nothing for you. use the vegesperine stuff.



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Sigh. IF, I am holding a Melee weapon, then I am ONLY getting Melee defense. This is what You are telling me. And a Saber IS a melee weapon.


Yet I activate aura +500 and ranged attacks are sliding off me better than with out.


This sounds to me, like it is contradicting what you are telling me.


ie: you seem to be saying that with saber in hand, I am ONLY getting a +500 MELEE defense boost, NOT a +500 ranged one as well.


But that would mean that Melee defense, is helping me vs Ranged attacks. Do you Not see my confusion here?


I accept that FOODS are bugged, and wont give me ranged def bonus.


But as master defender, saber IN hand, and aura activated, I sure seem to be getting some decent RANGED defense.


PS: Asking other old school jedi on my server, some are telling me that Jedi GET all the defenses as if exempt from the "which weapon you are holding" theory. So I really dont know What to believe here, and thus, I am looking for concise clearifications. ALARIA.


Okay listen up, if you have a melee weapon equipped, melee defense protects rnaged and melee but is for a melee fighter. if you were to use a rifle you would want to use ranged defense. Both of these protect you from ranged and melee but only work for teh combat style that you are using. for food as a jedi use th melee defense food MAKE SURE YOU UNEQUIP AND RE_EQUIP YOUR SABER. the stats stay with you for a while even after the food runs out.


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Dziecko
Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:48 am
#61


DFrost worte : Anyone know how the poison/disease/fire resistance foods work against BH's? Would you have a decent chance with those foods/drinks and HEAL 4xxx ? "



i think will work...why?cose in expasion there is necklace with Fire Resist +25...



so shoudl work...





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