Jedi Archive
Thread: Since Cloak will be useless now Baciacca...
OMG the sky is falling.
Oh my precious cloak, oh no.
It is still useful. Just not the super better than everythng else skill it was.
If you can still ForceRun while cloaked the oh well
Do you even know what you're talking about. I really doubt it. I don't fight BH, I don't care about them or their mission or that I'm "their content" because if this goes through, this piece of content will be in the lower levels of several houses on a moving macro (so they can't tell I'm AFK)just to irritate them and take up his time (since I'm paying for the account I'm going to use it, not just the alt).
Yep let's make Jedi a starting profession, no arguments, go ahead, it's no more powerful, heck I'd probably get a BOOST in power. Seeing as my MBH/MRM/Pist is capable of dishing and taking more damage than my Full-Temp Jedi. My Jedi hits the average cl85 creature for ~300 pts on the default ~1000 on power attack, my MBH hits for ~500 default and ~1650 for critical.
I guess I am really a balanced character at MLS!
LagSolo wrote:
You would probably be suprised at how poewerful you actually are if you were to stop running and cloaking and standing your ground and fighting.
Having cloak in a game where the devs want you to be hunted and risk losing xp and whatnot is sort of counter productive........why not just take away all the power of jedi and really balance it out and make it a starting profession.
There are no risks involved with Jedi anymore.........might as well balance the power out in accordance with the limited risk factor.
I would love for my Jedi to be all powerful.....but with all the cries and whines about nerfing other professions because some players cant handle it, how do you expect us to remain powerful?
What are you willing to trade for the nerf of other professions?....Nothing?...figures.
When you fell out of that tree, you hit every branch on the way down, didn't you?
I can't escape if they can follow me around until I've got no force JUNIOR.
Divine-Shadow wrote:
I'm not even going to read past your first sentence, If your cloaked you shouldnt be able to be attacked, therefore you have escaped, Now go cry about the area attacks and follow, thanks and bye.
Devine and Evil Chill.
Evil, what devine is saying is that the real issue here isn't the changes (the root and inability to heal). These things are in balance IF (and that's the big if) the issues with being able to be attacked in an AoE attack or the ability to type command to /follow the Jedi get fixed first. If those things aren't fixed, then these changes will make it much harder. If, however, those issues are addressed as well, this change will be better for the game.
flame-fests are not needed.
-zoe- wrote:
EvilAztec wrote:
Helios had this to say:
6. You are afflicted with a movement snare when you are stealthy (rooted when just camouflaged)
This is the best thing to happen, this will stop cloakers being able to aggro massive amounts of spawn and tun around places like the DWB runing others gameplay while taking little to no damage , with new system in place cloakers will have to uncloak or run out of force due to the fact they can not outrun the spawn anymore. The way it stands now like all you need is like 1 cloaker and 2 other people to do the DWB due to peeople abusing cloak, also a snare while cloaked will help avoid people using it to gank in pvp.
Dont blame soe for changing it blame the people the abused it.
Calel_Haven wrote:
Actually I can live with the Heal thing.
If they want to make it so cloak is an escape tool then you shouldnt be able to channel while cloaked either, but the snare?
So if I am snared, what do I need cloak for? Basically already I am thinking how would I escape?
I would need to root BH FR2 to a safe distance, /cloak which will prevent BH from attacking me. He wont be able to area me becuase I'll run to a spot with little or no agro. But all he needs to do is /follow Jedi and simply run the Force bar down.
I agree with all the other tings becuase I only use cloak as an escape tool, but I do NOT agree with the snare for Jedi.
Well actually if hes rooted and you get what 20 sec for this or stasis which is 40 then its plenty of time to move off first with burt run then cloak thencontinue moving off and at this distacne the BH cannot use /follow it does have a distance range itself..also so even without stasis you could root move off cloak and he wouldnt be able to fin you at least for a bit..would still give you chance to leave..
Dont get me wrong Im for cloak and I hate the change..
Nuff Said..
What if you don't have Force Run or Stasis?
karther77 wrote:
Calel_Haven wrote:
Actually I can live with the Heal thing.
If they want to make it so cloak is an escape tool then you shouldnt be able to channel while cloaked either, but the snare?
So if I am snared, what do I need cloak for? Basically already I am thinking how would I escape?
I would need to root BH FR2 to a safe distance, /cloak which will prevent BH from attacking me. He wont be able to area me becuase I'll run to a spot with little or no agro. But all he needs to do is /follow Jedi and simply run the Force bar down.
I agree with all the other tings becuase I only use cloak as an escape tool, but I do NOT agree with the snare for Jedi.
Well actually if hes rooted and you get what 20 sec for this or stasis which is 40 then its plenty of time to move off first with burt run then cloak thencontinue moving off and at this distacne the BH cannot use /follow it does have a distance range itself..also so even without stasis you could root move off cloak and he wouldnt be able to fin you at least for a bit..would still give you chance to leave..
Dont get me wrong Im for cloak and I hate the change..
Nuff Said..
The snare issue seems big.
Cloak should be an escape/hide move. So snaring it kinda stinks.
I agree that initiating combat should break cloak, butI'm a little on the fence about healing breaking cloak. Healing someone else should, but healing yourself shouldn't. Does it apply to stim usage as well?