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Thread: Jedi in SWG

jimcabtv
Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:02 pm
#53






Willvas wrote:



lol wow man you need to get a beer and relax... how old are you?


you first need to learn how to read... You are blaming jedi.. i said NO ITS NOT JEDI's fault... because it isnt...


its SOE's fault...


read and read again... i am telling you that you think its jedis fault but SOE has not fixed anything important... i gave you the prime example as to why its not jedi's fault.. its SOE's... and you are the one telling me.... NO IM TELLING YOU... that SOE is a money company.. bottom line they want money... they dont care what you and I think....


read again what i wrote.. no way am i backing this game as to where it has gone.. i have been here since launch...first day waiting to log in because so many were trying to get in on bloodfin.... nothing has really changed since day one.. bugs and quick fixes to keep you in game... tahts about all it has been done...


how to keep poeple in game... well jedi was their quick fix... they kept you around long enough to level a jedi didnt they?


catching my drift.. so cool your jets dude... your the one i said you are pointing the fingers in the wrong direction... if anything JEDI has kept this game lasting as long as it did... i dont know many people who would of stayed if they didnt have one... that includes me


Message Edited by Willvas on 08-31-2005 11:46 AM




Maybe you should read my into my comments more....Yes, it is SOE's fault, we both agree on this. But yes, I AM blaming Jedi. Not the players themselves. The profession itself. Jedi is the reason why this game is like it is, and If you can't see this, then again....stop yappin. Jedi is the cash cow. The systems that needed to be fixed/revamped/changed around fighting Jedi in the non-existent GCW is what they have been fixing all along. Seriously....last few publishes, what has been the main focuses? Jedi and BH.


Now picture a world without Jedi....without an alpha class. For one thing, this would promote balance without having an alpha class...aka it is easier to balance. For another, it would promotemore development timeto handle more pressing issues like a GCW and more content. The economy would be boosted EASILY, simply because all the players are dependent on the crafters, not just practically HALF. Third, with this comment in yellow, you have NOTHING to back up, simply because a LARGE portion of the playerbase has left simply BECAUSE of Jedi. So no, I think to all those people that quit because of them, to all those people that are quitting because of the state of the game now, to all those people that realize the problem of having just one Alpha class in a pvp-orientated game.....I think they really know what the problem is and has always been.


BTW, I am 23, and deal with logistics and partially chaos theory. And it is downright illogical to claim that the availability of only one alpha class in a MMORPG wouldn't lead to serious problems in the system, the playerbase, and the balance.



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Willvas
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:02 am
#54






jimcabtv wrote:






Willvas wrote:



lol wow man you need to get a beer and relax... how old are you?


you first need to learn how to read... You are blaming jedi.. i said NO ITS NOT JEDI's fault... because it isnt...


its SOE's fault...


read and read again... i am telling you that you think its jedis fault but SOE has not fixed anything important... i gave you the prime example as to why its not jedi's fault.. its SOE's... and you are the one telling me.... NO IM TELLING YOU... that SOE is a money company.. bottom line they want money... they dont care what you and I think....


read again what i wrote.. no way am i backing this game as to where it has gone.. i have been here since launch...first day waiting to log in because so many were trying to get in on bloodfin.... nothing has really changed since day one.. bugs and quick fixes to keep you in game... tahts about all it has been done...


how to keep poeple in game... well jedi was their quick fix... they kept you around long enough to level a jedi didnt they?


catching my drift.. so cool your jets dude... your the one i said you are pointing the fingers in the wrong direction... if anything JEDI has kept this game lasting as long as it did... i dont know many people who would of stayed if they didnt have one... that includes me


Message Edited by Willvas on 08-31-2005 11:46 AM




Maybe you should read my into my comments more....Yes, it is SOE's fault, we both agree on this. But yes, I AM blaming Jedi. Not the players themselves. The profession itself. Jedi is the reason why this game is like it is, and If you can't see this, then again....stop yappin. Jedi is the cash cow. The systems that needed to be fixed/revamped/changed around fighting Jedi in the non-existent GCW is what they have been fixing all along. Seriously....last few publishes, what has been the main focuses? Jedi and BH.


Now picture a world without Jedi....without an alpha class. For one thing, this would promote balance without having an alpha class...aka it is easier to balance. For another, it would promotemore development timeto handle more pressing issues like a GCW and more content. The economy would be boosted EASILY, simply because all the players are dependent on the crafters, not just practically HALF. Third, with this comment in yellow, you have NOTHING to back up, simply because a LARGE portion of the playerbase has left simply BECAUSE of Jedi. So no, I think to all those people that quit because of them, to all those people that are quitting because of the state of the game now, to all those people that realize the problem of having just one Alpha class in a pvp-orientated game.....I think they really know what the problem is and has always been.


BTW, I am 23, and deal with logistics and partially chaos theory. And it is downright illogical to claim that the availability of only one alpha class in a MMORPG wouldn't lead to serious problems in the system, the playerbase, and the balance.





lol i have to respond usually i would let a thread like this die... but i have to.... first off... blaming jedi in this game for ruining it is so funny...


lets pick on a profession to blame for Star Wars Galaxies Falling....


here is where you are way off base... JEDI ARE NOT AN ALPHA CLASS... any one template with doc/cm in it... with good armor and food can take a jedi in its current state....


and dont ask me to explain this... i have played since day 1 and a vet... i see other vets on my server can do the same as well.... heck some dont even play their jedi anymore because of the lack of strength they now posess...


me included


you talk about a pvp oriented game... hmmm what does that tell you... it lacks pve... so people who come here want pvp? you are basically contradicting yourself here... people who are in this game for pve... well they will leave because this game lacks pve content... now pvp people well they will be here for what? Star Wars... what does star wars have in ALL of its movies... oh yeah... entertainer profession...


you said it yourself... SOE has a marketting giant... well what else would they push to bring people in.... a picture of a jedi.... i didnt see a twilek entertainer sitting at the feet of obi wan to try to get people in to buy the game or expansion...


like i said its probably the ONE thing that has saved this game...


people were complaining about content since october or november of 2003... everybody was finished template... nothing to do but just pvp and that was it.... also the complaints nobody knew how to get jedi...then bam... they gave all the content people wanted and needed... holo grinding...


but lets talk about what really ruined this game...


duping... since day one resources and credits were duped.... and i am not just talking about one type of dupe... there was so many ways to do it... i mean SOE did a great job trying to get them all fixed... but by then the damage was done to the economy....


every so often a dupe would pop up...


lets see what else killed pvp... melee stackers.... ungodly dots... armor... buffs... multiple sliced weapons and armor....exploits found all the time...


the only online game to introduce and condone a griefing system to allow one profession to grief another....and have so many exploits and bug surrounding it...


the timely fashion of them fixing professions... the smuggler revamp has been talked about since 1993... SOE has had serious problems fixing huge issues... they are very famous for fixing only small things... sticking them together and calling it a publish...for once people thought the CU was going to be the huge fix... they are going to mass fix professions that for MONTHS we have asked for professions to be fixed....


nope they changed their plans they went back to the drawing board from their original plans to make this game more EQ and WOW like... there is no doubt about that... they promised more balance and fixes...


still waiting mind you.... and your so called fixes.. you really need to actually read the publishes... they are only small fixes... not huge... smuggler revamp was scheduled to be very shortly after publish 20... they were talking about 23 if i remember right... thats suppose to be a huge change to ONE profession... hope you dont blame smuggler for ruining the game too when they get their profession.. or even yet DE got theirs too or how about CHEFS... hope you dont blame them for the downfall of the game...


lots of factors were the reason for this games slow declining downfall... and its NOT because of JEDI.....


Message Edited by Willvas on 09-12-2005 09:06 PM



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PhantomNIR
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:12 am
#55






Ternque01 wrote:





delanstarrunner wrote:
Started to read and stopped, your opinion is flat and boring!






*Puts a shiny lightsaber in the hand of the original post*


That should grab your attention


Everything with a lightsaber on it is FUN!




Only took igniting my saber the first time to never want to go back to a normal profession. My other toons are collecting dust.






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