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Thread: Cloak Nerf, and a plea to the community....:(
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jonstraf
Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:24 am
#53
Drazharr wrote:
jonstraf wrote:
Hmm...the reason it is getting the nerf bat is because it is out of hand. Do you know how many jedi on my server switched to a Cloak or a master powers template? that is because they are invincible. They can heal other people while they are cloaked (I.E. 4 cloaked jedi can sit there and heal one mdef as he takes on 3 guys). Also, the master powers cloakers can camp around, debuff someone then cloak again and never get hurt. Although i hate the nerfs the jedi keep getting, this is one that is kind of needed.
Now all we need is for the CM's to be addressed. Their healing mixed with their speed debuffs is way out of balance compared to our healing and our speed buffs.
My template of MLS/MP/4040 Healer is not overpowered. The cloak nerf will cripple me and probably make me retemp to some kind of FOTM.That's wrong. It shouldn't happen.
Why would it do that? because you can't heal people while you are cloaked? lol ... Or blow up bases while no one can touch you? It's a joke... When you are cloaked...who cares if you are snared...especially if you pick up force run...either way you are still untouchable ...i dont see the problem. Now, you can't heal people while cloaked (Which is great) and you also can't exploit bases (another good thing with this nerf). I'm sorry if you run a little slower while you are untouchable compared to me being completely open to attack all the time without cloak. Seriously, this isn't that big of a deal, just keeps people from doing things that are VERY unfair.
OSWC
Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:26 am
#54
My 2 Cents even though I only have cloak until I finish my template is If Cloak is really for recon then adding a snare makes ZERO sense. The snare is just stupid I guess that is SOE's new way of nerfing things they don't have a creative way of finding abetter solution. Next thing you know they will be adding a snare to anyone that uses Deverish or uses Stasis. It is just stupid that Jedi ask for other Jedi skills to be nerfed but guess what it is going to happen no matter what because there are too many little kids playing and cry over everything.
KeeferKman
Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:29 am
#55
Since you can damage a cloaker with Area Attacks, and you can follow a cloaker by his shadow (working as intended? theoretically not, but I think the devs like this), then this snare is very significant. Duel a friend hit him with area attacks. Bring a group to surround him and drain force. Also, just follow him now. It will annoy the hell out of him and will force him to fight sooner or later or logout I suppose.
If you don't want cloak, then why the hell did you put it in?
Next, if you gonna strip Jedi of usefullness of A.I. (defender), Cloak (powers), SAP (healer), Force Speed (enhancer), (on deck...MLS)and also ignore the speed bug and ignore the horrible pearl/crystal drops/tunes, then at least GIVE JEDI something!!! continual decay of Jedi will not lead to increased revenue for SOE...Peeps will simply stop grinding Jedi, which is and has been the BIGGEST reason many many many subscribers have stayed for so long.
Chew on that SOE, chew on that like a big pile of cud.
Message Edited by KeeferKman on 09-19-2005 02:44 PM
Drazharr
Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:34 am
#56
The cloaksnare is gonna be just as bad as the Avoid Incap snare. And here's the link:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1216782
So, for all those basing their arguments on the premise that the cloak nerf cannot be as bad as the Avoid Incap nerf, sorry.
This will make cloak useless, folks. Case closed - unless the devs change their minds.
mclouj
Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:25 pm
#57
Bovafett wrote:
Mythrindir wrote:
Sorry for my biased BH point of view but cloak was meant to be used for recon and stealth, not as an "I may not win but im sure as hell not losing" button
Honestly that doesn't bother me. I've had that happen to me plenty. The problem I have with it, is when you try to play the game in places like the DWB, and you have a cloaked jedi bringing agro to you, for no reason but just trying to be nasty. THAT isn't fun, and that, I think, is the primary reason behind it.
All they would need to fix here is the issue with Cloaked jedi getting aggro. If they weren't getting aggro they couldn't train the Mobs and it would be problem solved.
evhorizon
Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:48 pm
#58
Torleen wrote:It is sad to see that people who dabble in a proffesion and abuse it might create problems for people who are dedicated to the use of a proffession.Because Powers does not provide any defenses of it's own, cloak is basically a Powers defensive ability. Pretty much all or most of the people I have see who go master powers can do that other then dabble in some defender. And even then they still cant go toe to toe with anyone unless they spread out their skill points into Enhancer and Healer stuff.If you want to prevent people with Master Enhancer and powerful sabers decloaking and ganking people, put Cloak in the master box.Create a nerfed version for the box it is currently in.
You sir have hit the nail on the head with that post.
evhorizon
Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:49 pm
#59
KeeferKman wrote:
Since you can damage a cloaker with Area Attacks, and you can follow a cloaker by his shadow (working as intended? theoretically not, but I think the devs like this), then this snare is very significant. Duel a friend hit him with area attacks. Bring a group to surround him and drain force. Also, just follow him now. It will annoy the hell out of him and will force him to fight sooner or later or logout I suppose.If you don't want cloak, then why the hell did you put it in?Next, if you gonna strip Jedi of usefullness of A.I. (defender), Cloak (powers), SAP (healer), Force Speed (enhancer), (on deck...MLS) and also ignore the speed bug and ignore the horrible pearl/crystal drops/tunes, then at least GIVE JEDI something!!! continual decay of Jedi will not lead to increased revenue for SOE...Peeps will simply stop grinding Jedi, which is and has been the BIGGEST reason many many many subscribers have stayed for so long.Chew on that SOE, chew on that like a big pile of cud.Message Edited by KeeferKman on 09-19-2005 02:44 PM
They fix the shadow bug.
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