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Thread: The exploits keep on rolling in (nerf wars)

Mr_Desert
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:45 am
#40



Examples of things jedi cannot have but bhs can:

1) 75% armorbreak sliced armor, - They cant be Mdef either.
2) snares that last for nearly 2 mins and can be reapplied with impunity. - A snare doesnt kill you
3) bhs heal twice a second for 1400-1600 and jedi heal max for 1500 every 6 seconds - Instant Sim anyone?
4) bhs bypass exploit allows them to heal with the above speed using almost no mind at all. - PROVE IT
5) Bh's can use timer exploit to attack twice a second, - If there is a timer exploit still in effect then it will be accesable to every profession.
6) Bh's get weps with 1300-1400 with pups and jedi get 700 damage sabers (only if you were a pre cu jedi) - Do you have any idea why a LS is different int hsi manner, ever looked at the min damage and seen the difference in high end PvE or PvP? Suggest you read the post that was made on this board explaining just why there is a difference in the damage.
7) IT appears BHs now get the benefit of SL buffs during pvp with a jedi but the jedi cannot. Jedi get exacly the same buffs. I was grinding SL yesterday and the group tank got attacked by a BH. His SL buffs remained there as the battle took place as I was still grouped with him.
8) bhs can now hit for 7000 damage (gross number before armor mitigation) and jedi can hit for 1k under most circumstances. - Ever seen a jedi hit someone when they are armor broken, they use power attack, have sl buffs on them? THis is a stupid statement at the best of times.

Now a reasonable person would look at this and consider the distinct possibility that the devs are intent on destroying this profession and replacing star wars with bh wars or nerf wars. I look at this and wonder why all the hate towards jedi unless this is the ingame equivalent of order 66.

A reasonable person would realise thar JEDI ARE NOT BH´s and so SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME THINGS.


If you want a BH, respec your jedi into one, and while you are at it suggest you learn a bit more about the game and how to counter the things done t you. A jedi has a counter / viable tactic against everythig but as with 80% of the population it seems unelss it is listed in your skill tree you dont have the capability to work it out.


In future can you please just post the following.


Im a post 9 jedi with a crap saber and cannot kill a BH who has CM in their template so im going to moan until the CM gets nerfed as I am not going to spend time looking into food combinations, tactics and heaven forbid will not use my jedi 100% of the time.


Rememebrits the CM you have issue with not the BH trees but those issues are yours not theirs.




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Mr_Desert
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:50 am
#41

Oh and while im at it BH cannot have


FR, Cloak or AI either.


Learn about the game and you will understand why Jedi is 1.5x that of another class. Did you nade chuck your way to jedi or 4x respec?





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Mia-Larek - Jedi Knight - Pre 9 for those that know what it meant
Abe-Larek - Retired Master BioE

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Forum watching until someone fixes the game I loved so much

Sarak - 70 Warrior (Shadowmoon)
Larek - 60 Priest (Shadowmoon)
Chesed-Ari
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:51 am
#42

I watched the fight as well. None of us could believe it. Riogatta heals like -hired- as well. How can someone heal twice a second or attack twice a second? I thought it was so cheap to have a cloaked reb jedi following the (noble)jedi so that he couldnt cloak as a defense or tactic in the fight, and bring SL's too boot, and then talk smack when the tactic failed in the end. What is the game coming to.

Chesed-ari
felipz
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:53 am
#43






Chesed-Ari wrote:
I watched the fight as well. None of us could believe it. Riogatta heals like -hired- as well. How can someone heal twice a second or attack twice a second? I thought it was so cheap to have a cloaked reb jedi following the (noble)jedi so that he couldnt cloak as a defense or tactic in the fight, and bring SL's too boot, and then talk smack when the tactic failed in the end. What is the game coming to.

Chesed-ari





Was he using ruby + stim ? Or just normal heals ?



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insaniac77
Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:01 am
#44






Boatsheets wrote:





trajen2 wrote:






Shendrin wrote:
Now a reasonable person would look at this and consider the distinct possibility that the devs are intent on destroying this profession and replacing star wars with bh wars or nerf wars. I look at this and wonder why all the hate towards jedi unless this is the ingame equivalent of order 66.





they have succeeded. I know too many vet jedi such as myself that have walked away from the game. . .







You obviously didn't walk too far if you are still posting on the forums.



Could be the same thing as me, I cancelled but its still paid up for a while yet, im just not going to play but I need something to do at work until my time runs up that has been paid. As well I want to see if soe actually reacts to any of these issues (like they even give a damn though)




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SlaserX
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:53 pm
#45







Thorkahn wrote:

You have every right to present a counter point, with out personal attacks or suggesting that some one does not know how to play the game.




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Message Edited by SlaserX on 10-25-2005 12:53 AM



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MsNiL
Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:29 pm
#46







Shendrin wrote:
2) snares that last for nearly 2 mins and can be reapplied with impunity.

The 2min actually have a counter. Weak, but still.

Snares that can be shot on 80m range does not.








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Calel_Haven
Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:46 am
#47

There's nothing stealth about it! They simply do it in our faces now and it seems have no interest or care as to how we will react. SInce the outrage over the last patch there's not been a single official comment. This alone is bringing me closer and closer to walking away from the game.




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_Cicero_
Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:50 am
#48




/Bump


Mr Desert was cranky, and i agree with the OP on some points

Message Edited by _Cicero_ on 10-26-2005 02:55 AM

Arcadias
Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:55 am
#49






Mr_Desert wrote:



[...]


7) IT appears BHs now get the benefit of SL buffs during pvp with a jedi but the jedi cannot. Jedi get exacly the same buffs. I was grinding SL yesterday and the group tank got attacked by a BH. His SL buffs remained there as the battle took place as I was still grouped with him.


[...]





Yep, Jedi keeps the SL-Buff.


My guess is: The Jedi moved away from "his" SL (I think the SL-Aura has a 100m radius) and those from the BH followed.



Anyways: The tef should delete SL-Buffs. 1 BH with 7 SL (in theory!) could take down every Jedi, I guess.


And its easier for a BH to "rent" an SL for a mission than it is for a Jedi to "rent" one for a day.


Keep the SL-Buffs as they are (except /retreat, that needs to be fixed! why does the group lose all their mind/action?) but get rid of SL-Buff-Bots...





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TheNola
Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:01 am
#50

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CrayonPirate
Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:09 am
#51






trajen2 wrote:






Boatsheets wrote:





trajen2 wrote:






Shendrin wrote:
Now a reasonable person would look at this and consider the distinct possibility that the devs are intent on destroying this profession and replacing star wars with bh wars or nerf wars. I look at this and wonder why all the hate towards jedi unless this is the ingame equivalent of order 66.





they have succeeded. I know too many vet jedi such as myself that have walked away from the game. . .







You obviously didn't walk too far if you are still posting on the forums.




I gotta do something to keep be occupied while i am "working"

I didnt cancel...just waiting for better days...




spent 6months or more getting jedi,spent 2 days getting mbh/mcm/rifleman 4xxx and have more fun without being totally sucky...hmm whats the better choice to go with?




*edited by an a$$hole* The CU was an incap with quick recovery while sliding on the ground with someone trying to DB you...The NGE was just a 3 time hit tripple incap straight to the clone center but the clone center was burned down by insane ewoks..
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