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Thread: The exploits keep on rolling in (nerf wars)

MikeHeXt
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:15 pm
#27

There's also an exploit where someone can continue to burstrun over and over (NOT FOOD, I tried testing this with both parwan and the rations, both are subjected to the burst run timer.)

I experienced this when a MBH/MCM came for me once and was burstrunning every 2 mins or so. Very annoying.



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Shendrin
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:23 am
#28

Today I had an interesting experience watching -Hired-, a bh from REX guild attack one of our jedi. He was healing for 1400-1600 every second and at times twice a second which given the state of jedi sabers, very few jedi can keep up with. After the attack he admitted to using the healing bypass, and claimed that because everyone else can do it, and because the devs cannot code properly, there is nothing wrong with what he was doing. In addition, his once and twice a second attacks throughout the fight were of particular interest, clearly implying the use of the timer bypass exploit as well. As if that werent enough, we noticed a very disturbing situation. Just after that right, a group of 3 BDP people came for another of our jedi, and interestingly enough, they were able to use their SL to buff the bh in the middle of the fight, while our SL could not buff our jedi while he was tef'd. Additionally, his currently applied SL buf went away when he was attacked by the bh even though there was over 20 mins left on it. Are SL buffs only intended to benefit the BH in a jedi vs bh encounter? Can this be yet another stealth nerf to jedi? It seems that certain players in the game will do anything, and use any coding error or oversight to gain some advantage. IS this ok devs? Do you seriously intend that jedi can only heal every 6 seconds while bhs can heal twice a second now? This is balance to you? And to add further insult to injury, a reb cloaked jedi was following our jedi around at close range with fr3 on so our jedi could not use his cloak during the fight.

Examples of things jedi cannot have but bhs can:

1) 75% armorbreak sliced armor,
2) snares that last for nearly 2 mins and can be reapplied with impunity.
3) bhs heal twice a second for 1400-1600 and jedi heal max for 1500 every 6 seconds
4) bhs bypass exploit allows them to heal with the above speed using almost no mind at all.
5) Bh's can use timer exploit to attack twice a second,
6) Bh's get weps with 1300-1400 with pups and jedi get 700 damage sabers (only if you were a pre cu jedi)
7) IT appears BHs now get the benefit of SL buffs during pvp with a jedi but the jedi cannot.
8) bhs can now hit for 7000 damage (gross number before armor mitigation) and jedi can hit for 1k under most circumstances.

Now a reasonable person would look at this and consider the distinct possibility that the devs are intent on destroying this profession and replacing star wars with bh wars or nerf wars. I look at this and wonder why all the hate towards jedi unless this is the ingame equivalent of order 66.

A thought here devs, if you remove the brass ring from the game, why would anyone want to play it? Why would anyone want to invest time and energy and money in it knowing we are little more now than content for angry little griefer types who want to pwn everyone to fill their deep seated emotional needs.

I would welcome a dev coming here to actually respond to some of these questions, but it will more likely that this post will be met with the same hostility that has been directed at the entire jedi profession as a whole.

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felipz
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:27 am
#29

Didn't they fix the cooldown exploit thing ? Last time I checked they fixed. To be more sure check your combat log precisely and take some screenshots.



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c0kes
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:28 am
#30

I think a final solution to all this SL stuff is to make it so:


Once the BH attacks, both Jedi and BH fall in the TEF and they lose all buffs. This allows for the Jedi who is not ready to have a fighting chance, and both BH and Jedi can still eat foods once the TEF was applied for both of them.


Of course, BH could take SL with their template, but that limits their defensive\offensive capabilities.





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Shendrin
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:28 am
#31

a parallel post about this subject has already been deleted from general game discussion. FWIW the information on his healing times and and attack times came from my combat log.
felipz
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:30 am
#32






Shendrin wrote:
a parallel post about this subject has already been deleted from general game discussion. FWIW the information on his healing times and and attack times came from my combat log.





Sure but here you are just saying it can you upload it somewhere ?



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Boatsheets
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:31 am
#33



trajen2 wrote:


Shendrin wrote:
Now a reasonable person would look at this and consider the distinct possibility that the devs are intent on destroying this profession and replacing star wars with bh wars or nerf wars. I look at this and wonder why all the hate towards jedi unless this is the ingame equivalent of order 66.



they have succeeded. I know too many vet jedi such as myself that have walked away from the game. . .





You obviously didn't walk too far if you are still posting on the forums.





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Shendrin
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:32 am
#34

This is a new comp and I cannot get it to take a screenie, whenever I use this microsoft natural keyboard it will not take screenies. This just happened so the info is in my combat log still but I am at a loss on how to get it out.

any suggestions?
trajen2
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:32 am
#35






Boatsheets wrote:





trajen2 wrote:






Shendrin wrote:
Now a reasonable person would look at this and consider the distinct possibility that the devs are intent on destroying this profession and replacing star wars with bh wars or nerf wars. I look at this and wonder why all the hate towards jedi unless this is the ingame equivalent of order 66.





they have succeeded. I know too many vet jedi such as myself that have walked away from the game. . .







You obviously didn't walk too far if you are still posting on the forums.




I gotta do something to keep be occupied while i am "working"

I didnt cancel...just waiting for better days...





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Chazzbass
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:39 am
#36


bump
felipz
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:40 am
#37

When was that ? I just tested again I knew how to do it but they fixed... unless they found out another way to do it which I don't know.



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GunFu
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:42 am
#38

I dont think you realized they are doing this on purpose to thin out the jedi population. I too have cancelled and wont come back until we are fixed and upgraded.



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Maximus_Bane
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:43 am
#39



trajen2 wrote:


Boatsheets wrote:


trajen2 wrote:


Shendrin wrote:
Now a reasonable person would look at this and consider the distinct possibility that the devs are intent on destroying this profession and replacing star wars with bh wars or nerf wars. I look at this and wonder why all the hate towards jedi unless this is the ingame equivalent of order 66.



they have succeeded. I know too many vet jedi such as myself that have walked away from the game. . .





You obviously didn't walk too far if you are still posting on the forums.

I gotta do something to keep be occupied while i am "working"
I didnt cancel...just waiting for better days...





I won't be canceling either but I'll be concentrating on other interests. I just finished a childrens story that I want to finish illustrating before the end of winter. If the problems arn't solved by then I look into more permanent activities to keep me busy.

I pre-ordered the expansion and will play that. I felt it was decent content, but I know it won't keep me occupied for long. The core game needs attention now.




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