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Thread: Force should regen at the same rate mind regens when sitting.

mauvros
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:30 am
#40






acmtalk wrote:





mauvros wrote:







acmtalk wrote:





mauvros wrote:





acmtalk wrote:
nah, Thats WHy we have meditate + channel, Just get some enhancer and u should be fine....





Your kidding right?



I have enchancer upto x x x 2. Meditate is not worth it.



Your kidding yourself if you think its going to be ok when the FRS returns, and dont tell me its all about force management. A single fight can eat upto 50% of your force bar.







Its all about strategy.. You got manage your force at all times, I think it adds more "Strategy" to the game... I say keep it how it is... You guys Cry too much.





Cry to much? and your the kind of Jedi who gets kicked while hes down and looks up and asks for more.


and where is this Strategy with the Elite templates?


We are supposed to be better than Elite templates yet...

They have lower SAC weapons


They have higher damage weapons


They can use Armor


They can use Power Ups to enchance all aspect of their weapons (As if their superior weapons werent enough)


They have the same amount of health, action and mind


They can regen HAM within 10 seconds


They have have access to higher speed buffs than we do


They arent hunted and never experience XP loss


They can heal better than us


and many more.....


But we are 1.5x as powerful right?



Cry to much... with people like you Jedi will never get fixed.







Message Edited by mauvros on 09-12-2005 12:26 PM




We don't need A FIX! (maybe a few Things like healer and Speed mods work), But force is fine where it is!, And Yes we are 1.5x Stronger, Hell We are even more, We need Less Noobs Who cant play the game, Crying all over all the times...






I guess you dont get out much huh....


I can throw a number of Elite templates that will spank you all over the server...



But yes... keep thinking your uber.


DarkShadow1313
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:33 am
#41

/sign


have had many issues with this. a lot of missions have been delayed due to regening force. all time that could have been used to gain xp.





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WookieOgre
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:36 am
#42

"Force should regen at the same rate mind regens when sitting."


Ok, well you just made Jedi more powerful globally (Tiggs would say that )as well as made an entire line of Enhancer suck.


Jedi has always been designed to be short term fighters, they were never supposed to be the main attackers in PvP. Now I think one can argue that since we've been nerfed our roles should also change but the devs have decidednot to touch that issue with a ten foot pole. Guess we'll have to wait until they decide to give the entire Jedi profession a revamp to address yourissue.


SoloBacca1
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:41 am
#43

SIMPLY! Make Meditate a Padawan thing, just thing some about it... its true that would fix this little Unbalance, after all we should have an advange of 1.5times not a 0.5 Times... Muhaha I dicused that soo do not DIsagree about this point!




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c0kes
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:44 am
#44






KyiasLightsun wrote:
Personally I think Force regen should take a while to regen....force doesn't come off trees you know.

Is it a little slow now? yes...but it shouldn't be the same as aanother HAM bar. Part of being a Jedi is managing that force bar the best way you can.

Having force troubles, pickup channel...given force meditate should work a bit better, but for better force regen get skills to reflect it.





Actually it does, from any thing in the whole universe. Thats the whole point of the "force" is a mystical energy that binds all creatures and things into a common system.


Why do you think Jedi can feel disturbances on the force? Because the force is all around us and it works more like a general energy, not individual.

I agree that the Force Bar can be a pain in the arse most of the time. I would like to see a faster regen over all, its ridiculous how as a Jedi, I have to get a skill called "channel" so I can successfully do what any other combat profession can without needing to "channel".


Sure, come and flame and tell me I cry and I want Jedi in easy mode, see if I care. Like if any of you "worked harder" than me or has any sort of higher privileges.



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WookieOgre
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:46 am
#45






mauvros wrote:





WookieOgre wrote:

"Force should regen at the same rate mind regens when sitting."


Ok, well you just made Jedi more powerful globally (Tiggs would say that )as well as made an entire line of Enhancer suck.


Jedi has always been designed to be short term fighters, they were never supposed to be the main attackers in PvP. Now I think one can argue that since we've been nerfed our roles should also change but the devs have decidednot to touch that issue with a ten foot pole. Guess we'll have to wait until they decide to give the entire Jedi profession a revamp to address yourissue.








True true... But I also said this...



I understand Meditate will become useless and so if they dont want to do the above make Meditate regen as fast as an Elite template mind bar does when sitting.







But that would remove the whole, short term fighter. Yeah it would make Meditate actually worth something (which IMO it's crap atmas I have it) but it would aslo make it so Jedi are back in battles much quicker than devs want them. The 10-15 min breaks are done on purpose, devs have stated this a lot recently. Only way I can see them making changes is nerfing Jedi more (which frankly I can't see how that is possible aside from a few skills) or as I hope revamp the entire profession (I prefer this one).


This is why I play my alt now.
DarkShadow1313
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:47 am
#46






WookieOgre wrote:

"Force should regen at the same rate mind regens when sitting."


Ok, well you just made Jedi more powerful globally (Tiggs would say that )as well as made an entire line of Enhancer suck.


Jedi has always been designed to be short term fighters, they were never supposed to be the main attackers in PvP. Now I think one can argue that since we've been nerfed our roles should also change but the devs have decidednot to touch that issue with a ten foot pole. Guess we'll have to wait until they decide to give the entire Jedi profession a revamp to address yourissue.







well after looking over things and reading this then yes I'll have to agree. We need to wait til the "jedi pub"



So many stupid people are still alive because it is illegal to kill them.
Anyone who says, "Trust Me" can not be trusted.
It is not what you are killing but what you are allowing to live.

Cieboa - Elder Jedi
Danu - Trader (Domestics)
Rachis - Elder Smuggler
Arianrhod - Trader (Structures)
mauvros
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:49 am
#47






WookieOgre wrote:






mauvros wrote:





WookieOgre wrote:

"Force should regen at the same rate mind regens when sitting."


Ok, well you just made Jedi more powerful globally (Tiggs would say that )as well as made an entire line of Enhancer suck.


Jedi has always been designed to be short term fighters, they were never supposed to be the main attackers in PvP. Now I think one can argue that since we've been nerfed our roles should also change but the devs have decidednot to touch that issue with a ten foot pole. Guess we'll have to wait until they decide to give the entire Jedi profession a revamp to address yourissue.








True true... But I also said this...



I understand Meditate will become useless and so if they dont want to do the above make Meditate regen as fast as an Elite template mind bar does when sitting.







But that would remove the whole, short term fighter. Yeah it would make Meditate actually worth something (which IMO it's crap atmas I have it) but it would aslo make it so Jedi are back in battles much quicker than devs want them. The 10-15 min breaks are done on purpose, devs have stated this a lot recently. Only way I can see them making changes is nerfing Jedi more (which frankly I can't see how that is possible aside from a few skills) or as I hope revamp the entire profession (I prefer this one).


This is why I play my alt now.






If the downtime was suplimented with power I could live with all of that.



Sadly its not and never will be because EVERYONE and their mother is Jedi. So might as well make us like the rest of the Elite templates.


Hell, you know what... Nerf us more, Take away the "1.5x as strong" and remove the force bar completely. Im down with that.



acmtalk
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:54 am
#48






mauvros wrote:





acmtalk wrote:





mauvros wrote:







acmtalk wrote:





mauvros wrote:





acmtalk wrote:
nah, Thats WHy we have meditate + channel, Just get some enhancer and u should be fine....





Your kidding right?



I have enchancer upto x x x 2. Meditate is not worth it.



Your kidding yourself if you think its going to be ok when the FRS returns, and dont tell me its all about force management. A single fight can eat upto 50% of your force bar.







Its all about strategy.. You got manage your force at all times, I think it adds more "Strategy" to the game... I say keep it how it is... You guys Cry too much.





Cry to much? and your the kind of Jedi who gets kicked while hes down and looks up and asks for more.


and where is this Strategy with the Elite templates?


We are supposed to be better than Elite templates yet...

They have lower SAC weapons


They have higher damage weapons


They can use Armor


They can use Power Ups to enchance all aspect of their weapons (As if their superior weapons werent enough)


They have the same amount of health, action and mind


They can regen HAM within 10 seconds


They have have access to higher speed buffs than we do


They arent hunted and never experience XP loss


They can heal better than us


and many more.....


But we are 1.5x as powerful right?



Cry to much... with people like you Jedi will never get fixed.







Message Edited by mauvros on 09-12-2005 12:26 PM




We don't need A FIX! (maybe a few Things like healer and Speed mods work), But force is fine where it is!, And Yes we are 1.5x Stronger, Hell We are even more, We need Less Noobs Who cant play the game, Crying all over all the times...






I guess you dont get out much huh....


I can throw a number of Elite templates that will spank you all over the server...



But yes... keep thinking your uber.






Yeah, Bring it on.. Instead of Crying on the boards, I actually learned how to play my jedi, and I can do prety well... Its not about beeing Uber or not, You as jedi are Not suppost to spawn atacks all the time, Thats WHy they ahve a force bar on.. Learn how to play and stop crying you Noob.




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mauvros
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:57 am
#49





Yeah, Bring it on.. Instead of Crying on the boards, I actually learned how to play my jedi, and I can do prety well... Its not about beeing Uber or not, You as jedi are Not suppost to spawn atacks all the time, Thats WHy they ahve a force bar on.. Learn how to play and stop crying you Noob.







You know whats really funnny? I do know how to play my Jedi and I know you ingame as im on your server and beat you many times in duels.


I guess I know how to play better than you Noob. You should spend even less time on the boards.
mauvros
Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:43 am
#50






acmtalk wrote:
anyways.. I dont really care dude.... Its all good, you have your opnion I have mine.. I think jedi is just fine the way it is.. I actually think we are too powerfull in some cases...






Its all good, I could have sworn we dueled a few times.



I even looked for you last night during our invasion and occupation of the theed starport.



I had 2 BH's come for me also... it was a fun night.



Do you PVP?


Message Edited by mauvros on 09-13-2005 07:44 AM

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