Jedi Archive
Thread: Unstress it NOW: Jedi/BH
i love to see that more and more ppl start to think how to solve the problem we have. And I totally agree with the solution "No more xp loss". The reason why is simple for me. On one hand I think no BH no Jedi wants to get any kind of hate tells. And what ever side does it ...it's not a needed. Often xp-loss is what it causes and I can understand the non camper jedi that do it in the normal way cause they earn a lots of less xp per session. So I want to underline that all the posts liek "how to make xxx milion xp" etc don't make it easier for the masses only shows that some jedi to it this or that way. But thats another book.
No xp-loss would make it for the young padawans good to learn their template. They start maybe earlier in pvp what is good if they dont have that much experience in it. For the BH it is in: still payout and a handshake for a good fight instead of cries, yells etc. A jedi bounty would become directly what it should be : Not personal only business. Also a plus for the BH that use to read this forum: Less Padawans you have to search on Kashyyy. Maybe a thing to jump with the jedi in one boat and say: Might be a solution.
Some would say now: But where is the penality for beeing careless?
Well I would love to see one thing maybe to make it a little better: No jedifight or BH attack able in cities or villages or public places that looks like towns. So u will see a lot of less jedi official run inside them. Cause we can put away our glowsticks cause we dont need to think about attacks.---> unstressing the situation of : I have seen only jedi at... and so on.
Kashyyy would also go back to normal and back to the quest planet it was ( less need of campers ) . Same for other POI with permanent spawns. Cause u are still faster with a group and missions.
Also we need to remember : we should start with our own persons to unstress situations. Not to start hate tells or behave rude can be a starting point.
Thank u for this thread SWG-Addict
Kyra-Vristaarn wrote:Thank u for this thread SWG-Addict
Yvw
The last BH attacking my Jeditoon got a /bow and a "cool fight, was fun !" from me.
Im "oldshool" and not into this "...spit of corpse" respectless crap, i dont like this. There are other humans behind the keyboards, this isnt pacman.
Anyway, i would have (still) love to see the XP loss gone/go. The pub20 "solution" is Jedilove, yes - but also a huge dumping of the BH profession.
I am really not positive, if this is helping the situation.
I, for me, think it will make upcoming crying needed to get adressed again.
The permanent solution is this thread here, im convinced it would work and give fun back to the most hatred professions.
Message Edited by Swg-Addict on 07-08-2005 10:19 AM
a MBH with a certen number of PV sucessful marks should get this!
The Shadow Operations of the impire(for rebels The Alliance undercover forces) has been watching you. You have been selected to join an elite group of sith (or jedi) hunters....do you accept?
This leads off into a much like the village quest. A High mark of bountyhunting traning. One thing, these attacks and skill are only active when in combat with a jedi *player pvp, overt, NPC, bounty* anything. And this should allow them evenly useful skills when fighting and works JUST like a jedi temp. With braches and shuch....that would be coolio
Dairius wrote:
silentjunior wrote:
some good points...but if it would be 1:1, that would mean your mission goes off terms once a BH has it...which means a jedi's alt can pick up the mission and hang on to it...look, no more BH until you finish template and your free to get vis
But if you die to a BH in his changes, you don't lose XP, so it wouldn't matter.Even then it would matter, there is no Jedi content and fighting BH, after BH becomes as boring as hell! It would allow those who enjoy random PvP to have fun and those who just want PvE to enjoy the game also. I agree with the idea that the XP penalty makes the game less fun than it normally would be. After all, Jedi are the only ones who are threatened by it and that is one huge reason why I quit playing other SOE games like Everquest. No one likes to lose experience and it does develop some grief(ing). I also agree that it has not trimmed the Jedi population up as much as it was probably intended, and that if the Jedi population is to be trimmed, other possibilities should be looked into. I believe that if they want to penalize Jedi for dying to a BH, other alternatives could be found, such as having an XP penalty for a set amount of time after dying to a BH. Sure it would be uncomfortable, but the XP would continue to be positive, and considering how much XP we make as it is, this could still cause Jedi to try to stay hidden, yet not upset them so much when they die. The entire BH vs Jedi system should be looked at and tweaked somewhat to make the experience positive for both sides. As it is now, only the BHs are enjoying the hunt, and I believe the Jedi should enjoy it as well. I wouldn't mind being hunted if I knew that I would not be 'in the hole' for XP if I died, but if I knew I'd lose a percentage of all XP I gained after I died for a set amount of time, it would make me fight to not get that penalty.
Remove the BH from taking Jedi mission, after all Bounty Hunters have not always hunted Jedi. How often do you hear that an Alpha class unbalances the game. This is what Bounthy Hunter is
Bounty Hunters are not an Alpha class, how many of you have had the Bounthy Hunter run up and hit you at full health and force and run you dry!
Make Jedi a seperate tier of war, give ordinary players a choice of joining that,solving power balancing problems and restoring the power to Jedi!
The Emporer with his mighty army would NEVER employ the use of bounty hunters to kill off Jedi, especially non imperial BHs, I mean come on LMAO
The real solution is making Jedi huntable by strong NPCs, everytime they expose themselves inside cities, this is where the real trouble is coming from anyway, Jedi flashing like a pervert in front of the exits and entrances where everyone walks by.
Oh boy how much more fun SWG would be, woohoo!
Here's my question, why do theyNOT require PvP to attain Jedi but 1 week after you make padawan you better know how to PvP or else?
SWG-addict,
i know a lot of players that support your ideas, you should list them up and sign some sort of pertition
this would show SOE / devs,that this is more serious than just a hope ![]()
looooads of players, from jedi to bh believe that the game could be
better if these small changes were taken seriously
thanks for what you wrote,
Fufik Smeg
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mcm / mbh / pistols
ignore my subscription date, im a pre-cu player
swg-addict is suggesting these changes:
1. Remove the XP loss. There is no real meaning in it even (the "populationcntrol" of Jedis failed) Forced PvP becomes less of an issue for Jedi. PvP = fun!
2. Bring BH himself on the term, when he fails his mission Great idea! it will give more targets for the BHs to go after.
3. Make Jedis uber At least 1.5 x and balance Jedi combat. A Mdef / MLS vs Mdef / MLS should dish out same damage and winning be based on player v player skill not pearls.
4. Forbid Jedis to attack players FIRST (except FRS toons) If they are uber definitely!
5. Tone BH back comparable professions but give them sepcialmoves only affecting Jedis (like "forcesensitive feedbackshot") But be sure a Master BH can compete 1:1 v full template Jedi
6. Remove 5:1 - Make it 1:1 Yes!
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Message Edited by MadAtGravity on 10-26-2005 10:29 AM
FufikSmeg wrote:
SWG-addict,
i know a lot of players that support your ideas, you should list them up and sign some sort of pertition
this would show SOE / devs, that this is more serious than just a hope
looooads of players, from jedi to bh believe that the game could be
better if these small changes were taken seriously
thanks for what you wrote,
![]()
Fufik Smeg
![]()
mcm / mbh / pistols
ignore my subscription date, im a pre-cu player
what needs to happen is our corospondant needs to take this to the devs and report back... but he seems to suspiciously avoid threads talking about removing xp loss and or forced pvp. do your job and take what the COMUNITY wants to the devs.
Copy/paste all the Jedi trees and skills, rename them and change it appropriatly for a BH and make the BH go for an Elite status that enables them to hunt Jedi. The Elite grind would be just as long a grind and timegated as the FS grind. After Elite status would be gained the BH get rep points or something, which cap at +4 and -10. Every succesful mission npc or pc, the BH would gain one point, if it fails the BH loses 4 points. If the rep points drop below 0 that BH cannot hunt PC Jedi and must "grind" up the rep points on NPC's... And ofcourse the Elite skills would require the BH to invest all the skillpoints to gain the Elite status. And it would be cool for them to get a sort of BHRS at the same as we would get the FRS... then we would have effectively 4 factions taking part in the BH/Jedi thingie... Light Jedi vs Dark Jedi and Imperial BH's, Dark Jedi vs Light Jedi and Rebel BH's... And it would be cool if the BH's would end up on the terms on a certain ammount of failed missions... So they have to look out for other BH's aswell... To crazy to implement?
Message Edited by Dontknowmaster on 10-26-2005 11:45 AM