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Thread: Unstress it NOW: Jedi/BH

MysticOne622
Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:56 am
#40

pub 20 has it so that all your missions are deleted after 3 days. bh mission, creature mission all of them. and why waste your 2nd doing bh anyone i made my become a crafter



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Kyra-Vristaarn
Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:16 am
#41

i love to see that more and more ppl start to think how to solve the problem we have. And I totally agree with the solution "No more xp loss". The reason why is simple for me. On one hand I think no BH no Jedi wants to get any kind of hate tells. And what ever side does it ...it's not a needed. Often xp-loss is what it causes and I can understand the non camper jedi that do it in the normal way cause they earn a lots of less xp per session. So I want to underline that all the posts liek "how to make xxx milion xp" etc don't make it easier for the masses only shows that some jedi to it this or that way. But thats another book.


No xp-loss would make it for the young padawans good to learn their template. They start maybe earlier in pvp what is good if they dont have that much experience in it. For the BH it is in: still payout and a handshake for a good fight instead of cries, yells etc. A jedi bounty would become directly what it should be : Not personal only business. Also a plus for the BH that use to read this forum: Less Padawans you have to search on Kashyyy. Maybe a thing to jump with the jedi in one boat and say: Might be a solution.


Some would say now: But where is the penality for beeing careless?
Well I would love to see one thing maybe to make it a little better: No jedifight or BH attack able in cities or villages or public places that looks like towns. So u will see a lot of less jedi official run inside them. Cause we can put away our glowsticks cause we dont need to think about attacks.---> unstressing the situation of : I have seen only jedi at... and so on.


Kashyyy would also go back to normal and back to the quest planet it was ( less need of campers ) . Same for other POI with permanent spawns. Cause u are still faster with a group and missions.


Also we need to remember : we should start with our own persons to unstress situations. Not to start hate tells or behave rude can be a starting point.


Thank u for this thread SWG-Addict


Swg-Addict
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:17 am
#42


Kyra-Vristaarn wrote:

Thank u for this thread SWG-Addict






Yvw

The last BH attacking my Jeditoon got a /bow and a "cool fight, was fun !" from me.

Im "oldshool" and not into this "...spit of corpse" respectless crap, i dont like this. There are other humans behind the keyboards, this isnt pacman.

Anyway, i would have (still) love to see the XP loss gone/go. The pub20 "solution" is Jedilove, yes - but also a huge dumping of the BH profession.

I am really not positive, if this is helping the situation.

I, for me, think it will make upcoming crying needed to get adressed again.

The permanent solution is this thread here, im convinced it would work and give fun back to the most hatred professions.

Message Edited by Swg-Addict on 07-08-2005 10:19 AM



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NateStarflier
Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:53 am
#43


a MBH with a certen number of PV sucessful marks should get this!



The Shadow Operations of the impire(for rebels The Alliance undercover forces) has been watching you. You have been selected to join an elite group of sith (or jedi) hunters....do you accept?



This leads off into a much like the village quest. A High mark of bountyhunting traning. One thing, these attacks and skill are only active when in combat with a jedi *player pvp, overt, NPC, bounty* anything. And this should allow them evenly useful skills when fighting and works JUST like a jedi temp. With braches and shuch....that would be coolio




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NoviceRangerFlurry
Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:24 am
#44






Dairius wrote:






silentjunior wrote:
some good points...but if it would be 1:1, that would mean your mission goes off terms once a BH has it...which means a jedi's alt can pick up the mission and hang on to it...look, no more BH until you finish template and your free to get vis




But if you die to a BH in his changes, you don't lose XP, so it wouldn't matter.Even then it would matter, there is no Jedi content and fighting BH, after BH becomes as boring as hell! It would allow those who enjoy random PvP to have fun and those who just want PvE to enjoy the game also. I agree with the idea that the XP penalty makes the game less fun than it normally would be. After all, Jedi are the only ones who are threatened by it and that is one huge reason why I quit playing other SOE games like Everquest. No one likes to lose experience and it does develop some grief(ing). I also agree that it has not trimmed the Jedi population up as much as it was probably intended, and that if the Jedi population is to be trimmed, other possibilities should be looked into. I believe that if they want to penalize Jedi for dying to a BH, other alternatives could be found, such as having an XP penalty for a set amount of time after dying to a BH. Sure it would be uncomfortable, but the XP would continue to be positive, and considering how much XP we make as it is, this could still cause Jedi to try to stay hidden, yet not upset them so much when they die. The entire BH vs Jedi system should be looked at and tweaked somewhat to make the experience positive for both sides. As it is now, only the BHs are enjoying the hunt, and I believe the Jedi should enjoy it as well. I wouldn't mind being hunted if I knew that I would not be 'in the hole' for XP if I died, but if I knew I'd lose a percentage of all XP I gained after I died for a set amount of time, it would make me fight to not get that penalty.





Remove the BH from taking Jedi mission, after all Bounty Hunters have not always hunted Jedi. How often do you hear that an Alpha class unbalances the game. This is what Bounthy Hunter is


Bounty Hunters are not an Alpha class, how many of you have had the Bounthy Hunter run up and hit you at full health and force and run you dry!


Make Jedi a seperate tier of war, give ordinary players a choice of joining that,solving power balancing problems and restoring the power to Jedi!






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Zrystal
Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:38 am
#45

You know what's funny? I loose more xp running from a bh than I do just simply dying to him or her. 400k xp is nothing, I can get that in an hour.



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Nullify
Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:12 pm
#46

good points




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TraceAntilles
Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:21 pm
#47


The Emporer with his mighty army would NEVER employ the use of bounty hunters to kill off Jedi, especially non imperial BHs, I mean come on LMAO


The real solution is making Jedi huntable by strong NPCs, everytime they expose themselves inside cities, this is where the real trouble is coming from anyway, Jedi flashing like a pervert in front of the exits and entrances where everyone walks by.


Oh boy how much more fun SWG would be, woohoo!


Here's my question, why do theyNOT require PvP to attain Jedi but 1 week after you make padawan you better know how to PvP or else?




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FufikSmeg
Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:11 am
#48


SWG-addict,


i know a lot of players that support your ideas, you should list them up and sign some sort of pertition


this would show SOE / devs,that this is more serious than just a hope



looooads of players, from jedi to bh believe that the game could be


better if these small changes were taken seriously


thanks for what you wrote,



Fufik Smeg


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MadAtGravity
Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:27 am
#49





swg-addict is suggesting these changes:

1. Remove the XP loss. There is no real meaning in it even (the "populationcntrol" of Jedis failed) Forced PvP becomes less of an issue for Jedi. PvP = fun!
2. Bring BH himself on the term, when he fails his mission Great idea! it will give more targets for the BHs to go after.
3. Make Jedis uber At least 1.5 x and balance Jedi combat. A Mdef / MLS vs Mdef / MLS should dish out same damage and winning be based on player v player skill not pearls.
4. Forbid Jedis to attack players FIRST (except FRS toons) If they are uber definitely!
5. Tone BH back comparable professions but give them sepcialmoves only affecting Jedis (like "forcesensitive feedbackshot") But be sure a Master BH can compete 1:1 v full template Jedi
6. Remove 5:1 - Make it 1:1 Yes!


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GlargTheKelfn
Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:10 am
#50



FufikSmeg wrote:

SWG-addict,

i know a lot of players that support your ideas, you should list them up and sign some sort of pertition

this would show SOE / devs, that this is more serious than just a hope

looooads of players, from jedi to bh believe that the game could be

better if these small changes were taken seriously

thanks for what you wrote,

Fufik Smeg

mcm / mbh / pistols

ignore my subscription date, im a pre-cu player






what needs to happen is our corospondant needs to take this to the devs and report back... but he seems to suspiciously avoid threads talking about removing xp loss and or forced pvp. do your job and take what the COMUNITY wants to the devs.




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Radiance_37k
Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:32 am
#51

I didn't read all the replies, but here's an idea that I've been thinking about...

Copy/paste all the Jedi trees and skills, rename them and change it appropriatly for a BH and make the BH go for an Elite status that enables them to hunt Jedi. The Elite grind would be just as long a grind and timegated as the FS grind. After Elite status would be gained the BH get rep points or something, which cap at +4 and -10. Every succesful mission npc or pc, the BH would gain one point, if it fails the BH loses 4 points. If the rep points drop below 0 that BH cannot hunt PC Jedi and must "grind" up the rep points on NPC's... And ofcourse the Elite skills would require the BH to invest all the skillpoints to gain the Elite status. And it would be cool for them to get a sort of BHRS at the same as we would get the FRS... then we would have effectively 4 factions taking part in the BH/Jedi thingie... Light Jedi vs Dark Jedi and Imperial BH's, Dark Jedi vs Light Jedi and Rebel BH's... And it would be cool if the BH's would end up on the terms on a certain ammount of failed missions... So they have to look out for other BH's aswell... To crazy to implement?







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Dontknowmaster
Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:37 am
#52

I think this would be good to add to the game so we can stop all the hate, whinning, and everything else. Good idea. . Bring the fun back to this game woot. I really don't think the DEV's really care about this, but they should care cuz of this the game suck now. Get new Dev's people and fire all the old one and they must know what they are doing.

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