Jedi Archive

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Arcturius wrote:
Avoid Vayerbock.

It doesn't add to your saber block. It only works on melee blocking. I've taken it, and seen the boost in my "block" ability, but it did not add into my "saber block" ability. Don't waste your money. I wish it'd work, but it doesn't. At least, those are the conclusions to my OWN tests. Feel free to experiment for yourself.

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really? i havent tested it l8ly but whenever i eat vayerbok wit my MLS block and imp aura, i block like a madman. all i ever really see on the avatar or ne ranged fights is +block+, +block+, +missed+, +block+, missed+, -hit-, +missed+, +block+, -hit-, +block+, etc.

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Anchmed wrote:

Thanks for the feedback so far - does vayerbok work with this also, additional +block?

The template I am thinking of now is:

MLS

Healing 4/0/0/0

Enh 3/4/0/2

Def 0/0/4/4

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this temp is very very nice against MBH/Master ne thing else or against ne thing ranged. especially if u eat vayerbok (ive seen sum that add +25 block) wit MLS block, imp valor, and +25 vayerbok u have +75 block is like 75% chance ull block there shot. thats not even adding ur imp aura and other defense stats u have. i have this same temp but instead of xx44 def im 4x4x def. my temp is good for melee/jedi fights. xx44 def is good for ranged/bh fights.

I believe Varbock add +25 to Block, valour and LS trees give you Lightsaber block, so they are different skill mods. We know that LS Block translates to a % ie 50 = 50% block chance, but i have no idea how the vayerbock mod works.

Oh and to the other poster, the normal version of valour xxx2 gives you a damage reduction, as i believe the description says. The improved version xxx4 does not.

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VaainEldritch wrote:

Does it also cause a reduction in accuracy or damage outputfor the user?

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DarthNkari wrote:

force armor sucks force and protects less then some good old fashioned innate jedi armor just like your granddaddy wore....or something.

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Yes it sucks force, but no it doesn’t protect less. Initiate (+10), Nov Def (+20) and 444 (+24) = 54 innate, or 5400. FA2 (+40), Nov Def (+20) and Initiate (+10) = 70 innate, or the same as a master defender. And in my opinion the force drain really isn’t that bad, with FA2 and Aura, I can tank for an aoe group with no probs whatsoever. It’s awesome for pvp dueling as well. Fine you might not solo Necrosis since then it would eat your force.

At the end of the day though, as the poster above said it all depends on your playstyle, what you want to do. I personally went for it since with valour, aura and FA2, I have mdef level defenses, but still have enough sp for MLS, Supression, FR1, Channel, 1500pt heal etc.

I heared it DOES reduce your damage.. slight reduce though, not more then 10-15%

anyone else know anything about valor or would it be wise for me to drop valor tree and take the melee def tree.

Valor is very helpfull. You get improved saber blocking at the cost of only a small damage increase. I'd pick it over the defense tree.

small decrease doesnt bother me as im mls and have force clerity 3 so i can dish dmg fast enough. (my saber has all pre-cu pearls in to so that helps up my dmg)