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Thread: Yes, We are 1.5x Stronger..
Now, of couse, there's going to be plenty of non-Jedi that are very, very skilled and have extremely high end equipment. Same goes for Jedi; it's just that Jedi have less equipment to give them that extra edge, not to mention the difficulty of building a top end saber.
yes but non jedi do not get gimped offensivly, defensivly and in a 4th pool, if i chose a template with those exact things i come out with a lower force pool, and still i have no 75% armor break resist, no 700 min, 1300 max weapon, and my armor costs force to actually use.
WookieOgre wrote:
DarkShadow1313 wrote:
I was responding in Jedi In general. Sorry if i wasn't clear
WookieOgre wrote:
I see people agreeing with the poster that the template he gave is 1.5X stronger. Are we looking at the SAME template? Did any of you notice there is ZERO Masteries? He is not Master Defender, not Master LS, not MP, not ME.....heck the only thing worse than that template is having the only mastery Healer lol.
Show me a successful Jedi with zero master boxes and I'll change my mind, but until then that is absolutely one of the worst templates I've seen. No master boxes, rofl what kind of people do you people PvP against? I mean your force bar and regen has to be the biggest joke but that doesn't compare to subpar defense/offense. Heck I put this up there with the people who say a non-Jedi can go TK x1xx, Swords 4x31, Rifleman xx4x, Pistoleer xxx3, CM 4xxx.....geez yeah you have a lot of skills now please tell me what the hell do you plan to kill, noobs?
With that template a non-Jedi would have Snare, Root, CoB = 500 defenses, Advanced Armor Break, Improved Powerhit, Critical Hit, and better healing than a Jedi could ever get. Does that mean it's suddenly a good template???? of course not, but hey it looks cool when you can say you have all these skills.
But his point was we are stronger because we can choose all those skills at the same time. My point is you are actually weaker if you dothat in the way he laid out. I do agree some Jedi templates are more powerful than some non-Jedi templates but to have a viable offense/defense you HAVE to sacrifice something. It's still a rock, paper, scissors type of combat. Not one template is going to be the end all combat player and have every skill.....it's just not possible. That's why I think the argument people make that Jedi are stronger because they can choose a wide range of skills is funny....non-Jedi do the EXACT same thing lol.
People dont get it.. I Listed that template, To show that we Can get it all in a level 80 chartacter.. WE GET IT ALL, But Everything Is weak
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Now imagine If 4/0/0/0 healer could heal as well as CM's, Or 0/4/0/0/ LS would have the same speed+accuracy of master, and so on.. Its Your Choice.. You can be MLS,MDEF, anhancer3/0/0/0, healer 3/0/0/0 and be Uber.. Great defenses, great offensive(if you can manage to get a good saber) , force speed + root, and heals of 1k...
you wont survive long on our server, guaranteed
MasterShacklefurd wrote:
GeckoFighter wrote:
fight samuraijack on our server and he will show you how "1.5x strong" we really are.
I watched his tanking video, should I be impressed? I think all it did was show me Lowca doesn't know how to PvP... I mean no one hit him with a dizzy? (Oh wait I saw one dizzy, and he ran)
GeckoFighter wrote:
you wont survive long on our server, guaranteed
MasterShacklefurd wrote:
GeckoFighter wrote:
fight samuraijack on our server and he will show you how "1.5x strong" we really are.
I watched his tanking video, should I be impressed? I think all it did was show me Lowca doesn't know how to PvP... I mean no one hit him with a dizzy? (Oh wait I saw one dizzy, and he ran)
Why's that? Are you just angry you know nothing about the in-game mechanics? Seriously why did no one stick a dizzy on the tank... do you not know what dizzy does?
That video made me laugh, and so do you. Go do some in-game tests and learn how to PvP before logging on the forums. This is why the jedi forums are so bad, you all whine about how underpowered you all are yet you have no idea what you are doing. Tactics change from publish to publish... adjust.
jcarlson34 wrote:
GeckoFighter wrote:
fight samuraijack on our server and he will show you how "1.5x strong" we really are.
Yeah that dude is THE MAN. Got to see a Fraps movie with him in it... CL71 and kickin everyone's butt. Held his own vs 4 jedi at once.. totally impressed us Naritus guys....
lol we have a trasfer from another server CL73 and ya these melee tanks with doc healing are very hard = to or better than jedi IMO just depends on the player and how well they use thier temps i got him but it was very close! had 10% force left!and if I tried to tank him i would have lost for sure i had to kite him when he was using steak and a few times when i was AB. And yes i can PvP with Bloodfins best PvPer's so its not me. These temps are just very good doc heals are way above jedi heals you toss in 75% AB Armor and these guys are very hard...
When he used Synthsteak why did no one root and kite him? He can only take 3-4 before his stomach is full.
MasterShacklefurd wrote:
When he used Synthsteak why did no one root and kite him? He can only take 3-4 before his stomach is full.
ya i did thats what i said
and a few times when i had AB on me I was responding in Jedi In general. Sorry if i wasn't clear
WookieOgre wrote:
I see people agreeing with the poster that the template he gave is 1.5X stronger. Are we looking at the SAME template? Did any of you notice there is ZERO Masteries? He is not Master Defender, not Master LS, not MP, not ME.....heck the only thing worse than that template is having the only mastery Healer lol.
Show me a successful Jedi with zero master boxes and I'll change my mind, but until then that is absolutely one of the worst templates I've seen. No master boxes, rofl what kind of people do you people PvP against? I mean your force bar and regen has to be the biggest joke but that doesn't compare to subpar defense/offense. Heck I put this up there with the people who say a non-Jedi can go TK x1xx, Swords 4x31, Rifleman xx4x, Pistoleer xxx3, CM 4xxx.....geez yeah you have a lot of skills now please tell me what the hell do you plan to kill, noobs?
With that template a non-Jedi would have Snare, Root, CoB = 500 defenses, Advanced Armor Break, Improved Powerhit, Critical Hit, and better healing than a Jedi could ever get. Does that mean it's suddenly a good template???? of course not, but hey it looks cool when you can say you have all these skills.