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Thread: DEVS Learn from your pub 22 mistake DON'T PUSH CLOAK NERF LIVE!
Quiet420 wrote:
emovamalla wrote:
Quiet420 wrote:
they ARE fixing those specific situations
No, they are singlehandedly destroying Powers while fixing some problems w/ the "shotgun effect".It's like saying they fixed the LS Speed problems by removing lightsabers all together. "See guys... the speed issues are fixed and balanced within the vision of the CU"
the more things that are broken and worthless the more reasons for a jedi revamp....I say they should keep it coming....regardless...cloak was cheesy and you know it...it was never intended to be an escape mechanism....it's for offense.
What makes you say that?
QFE x2
Ikict wrote:
First they came for the force healer, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a force healer;
Then they came for the enhancers, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a enhancer;
Then they came for the wielders, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a wielder;
Then they came for the lightsaber users, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a lightsabers user;
Then they came for the defenders, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a defender;
Then they came for jedi--
and there was no one left to speak out for the jedi.
This fits in here, if other jedi want nerfs to the jedi professions they dont have then SOE will carry on with the nerfs untill eventually they will axe or destroy all the jedi professions
Rluil wrote:
I'm trying to figure out why this is an issue. Why is it considered an exploit? Is it because Jedi can do this an no other class can?
So, we can do corvette with cloak. And what did it take to do this? Months or years of leveling. Is this bad? No. So, we can hit and cloak, is that bad as well? No.
Jedi have abilities the others don't. Sorry guys, that's the way it is. If you want to do this then YOU spend monts grinding Jedi.
You all forget (and mostly SOE) that Jedi use the Force to accomplish things. If they have an advantage it's because they put the time and effort into it.
There is no reason to change cloak, in fact, to enhance cloak is more reasonable. I should be able to heal myself under cloak. If they make our cloak like a riflemans... I'm out.
Why is every advantage a Jedi gets and exploit or something that needs to be nerfed. It could be that the SOE dev team are 'liberal'. No class should be more powerful than the next. With that attitude, I'm out of here.
QFE
StrayS8 wrote:
im am a pvping jedi on ahazi and we getcloaker/ mehn guys that uncloak and statis someone then recloak and thats all they do while attacking someone else ...which is 1 reason for statis but using it together just to make pplstop pvping so u can laugh and run away and get doing that every min just to hold someone there so your gank squad/bhs even if u are pvping in the gcw a mehn/0-4-0-0 can keep u in the same spot and not have to take a bit of damage withsup/statis then run and cloak medit and repeat...should and needs to be fixed
If with the cloak nerfs, that wont change much. They will just use FR 3. And even if they did cloak, what will anyone do to them then?
rofl when i read that, i dont see how that really goign to change at all.
Jillzar wrote:
LOL if AI got the nerf bat then bring on the Cloak nerf bat.
Jillzar wrote:
LOL if AI got the nerf bat then bring on the Cloak nerf bat. You can single handedly blame all the starport cloaker campers for this nerf. Good job children way to abuse cloak till it gets nerfed.
Cybelia Jedi Knight
Message Edited by Jillzar on 09-18-2005 08:17 AM
Good job children way to abuse cloak till it gets nerfed.
Cybelia Jedi Knight
Message Edited by Jillzar on 09-18-2005 08:17 AM
Jillzar wrote:
LOL if AI got the nerf bat then bring on the Cloak nerf bat. You can single handedly blame all the starport cloaker campers for this nerf. Good job children way to abuse cloak till it gets nerfed.
Cybelia Jedi Knight
Message Edited by Jillzar on 09-18-2005 08:17 AM
I'm going to play a BH tude here.
If you don't want to be killed at a starport, then be dam sure you are not 'overt' when you arrive. That's special forces for you post-cu guys. If you are special forces, it's your own fault that you get killed.
cheers ).
JessieJames19 wrote:
StrayS8 wrote:
im am a pvping jedi on ahazi and we get cloaker/ mehn guys that uncloak and statis someone then recloak and thats all they do while attacking someone else ...which is 1 reason for statis but using it together just to make ppl stop pvping so u can laugh and run away and get doing that every min just to hold someone there so your gank squad/bhs even if u are pvping in the gcw a mehn/0-4-0-0 can keep u in the same spot and not have to take a bit of damage with sup/statis then run and cloak medit and repeat...should and needs to be fixed
If with the cloak nerfs, that wont change much. They will just use FR 3. And even if they did cloak, what will anyone do to them then?
Like I said before, that's assuming that they allow FR while cloaked man.
Qwad wrote:
JessieJames19 wrote:
StrayS8 wrote:
im am a pvping jedi on ahazi and we get cloaker/ mehn guys that uncloak and statis someone then recloak and thats all they do while attacking someone else ...which is 1 reason for statis but using it together just to make ppl stop pvping so u can laugh and run away and get doing that every min just to hold someone there so your gank squad/bhs even if u are pvping in the gcw a mehn/0-4-0-0 can keep u in the same spot and not have to take a bit of damage with sup/statis then run and cloak medit and repeat...should and needs to be fixed
If with the cloak nerfs, that wont change much. They will just use FR 3. And even if they did cloak, what will anyone do to them then?
Like I said before, that's assuming that they allow FR while cloaked man.
oh sorry, meant, they dont even need to use Cloak, just FR 3 away and come back.
Jillzar wrote:
LOL if AI got the nerf bat then bring on the Cloak nerf bat. You can single handedly blame all the starport cloaker campers for this nerf. Good job children way to abuse cloak till it gets nerfed.
Cybelia Jedi Knight
Message Edited by Jillzar on 09-18-2005 08:17 AM
This happens often on my galaxy, there would usually be one or two overt to "bait" any incoming overt and the rest of the baits' group members uncloak and hammer away. I have seen it happen and it saddens me to how an ability I use properly gets used by dabblers that has more defense and typically more offense with MLS than I do as a master force wielder. Of course many of these are pure speculation but whatever Helios says may come true and this will hurt pure force wielders and of course the dabblers will not care about it because they will go find something else to take advantage of as usual.
If I decide to stay then I will logging on my main more often and be better off wearing 75% armorbreak reduced sliced RIS armor and carrying a damage capped with a damage pup powerhammer on my main than my Jedi if this goes live, so be it because I am not going to regrind my template once again after a year of grinding from initiate to knight.
/sign
I'm not a cloaker, but I am a Nerfherder.
Message Edited by JarvisW on 09-18-2005 06:01 PM
FOCKSTA wrote:
cloak should be removed from the game
Well, ONLY if the new FRS takes deaths into account as well as kills. The way it works, a jedi can cloak pretty much ANY time, and though it DOESN'T make a jedi deal damage faster and such, it DOES allow the jedi to escape pretty much ANY death.