Jedi Archive

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iijin wrote:

Just face it some of you Jedi are Nubs...and alot of the nub Jedi come on the forums to complain about Jedi isn't powerful enough, or someone else is too powerful...

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please kindly go back to your forums while we instruct the "nooBs" on how best to kick your (place common explicative here)

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KRAKEN666 wrote:

This has been an issue forever, and now that bh can stack ranger skills on top of the bh/cm skills, its going to get a bit rougher out there. -

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Gah, has not a soul ever heard of skillpoints?

MBH/MCM has enough points left over for one line of ranger. In order to detect a cloaked Jedi (which I assume is what the big fuss is all about) you will need the Anti-Personnel Devices & Traps line for the proximity timer and HX2 Mine Body, the Pursuit & Countermeasures line for the Bio Sensor Probe to be used in the proximity timer and mine, and the Hiding & Concealment line for the Conceal Device schematic to hide the mine and timer.

MBH/CM 4xxx would have enough SP for Ranger 4x44 (necessary to detect a cloaker), but that would only leave a spare 18 SP for the rest of the template. At best, you're looking at MBH/CM 4xxx/Ranger 4x44/Carb x3xx, which would sacrifice a CL 80, recon and battle armor, the DOTs and debuffs from a MCM build or the damage/rootstrengthof a MRifle/Pist xxx3 build. Sure, you could pull a Jedi out of cloak, but you wouldn't be able to kill him.

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Gaks wrote:

fight BH b Mcm as well he through a few states like thyroid boom your mind starts going and the debuff makes your food worthless while he is shooting at youalong with his droid,so you now are faceing several attacks not just a weapon but also the stackable state effects. Yes ls has a stun dizzy and blind ( only if your Mls or only one handed tree though )But all elite proffesion have the remove ability ( except jedi unless there healer, or enhancer)

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Message Edited by SpaceSnail on 09-26-2005 03:06 PM

ok here's my take

the idea of Padawans being 1.5x strong is well sure against a Normal BH , or a normal rifleman

But what we are faceing mostly nowdays is a Hybrid a MCM/Mbh who uses the states of Thyroid rupture to hurt you and not his gun or melee weapon .

example= you fight BH A normal BH pistolleer with healing you fight good fight you win or loose depending on play style

example= you fight BH b Mcm as well he through a few states like thyroid boom your mind starts going and the debuff makes your food worthless while he is shooting at youalong with his droid,so you now are faceing several attacks not just a weapon but also the stackable state effects. Yes ls has a stun dizzy and blind ( only if your Mls or only one handed tree though )But all elite proffesion have the remove ability ( except jedi unless there healer, or enhancer)

so I honestly believe a Mbh MCM is not a normal profession it is a Hybrid that has found a few tricks that really work. NO big deal let them be

I just sit in my house and wach the tells as I talk with my friends letting my viz decay

and NO I am not some weak Jedi I have 4 million banked and a OK pvp rateing of 1465

I just CHOOSE to fight when I want not because I have to

Gakston

jedi Hermit

I think a problem is that too many Jedi think that they should be able to just flat out whack at anything and just take it down. That's where grinding and PvP differ. You just need to adapt a strategy. My saber's max dam is less than 700 and I am not even MLS...but I still don't take all that long to defeat these MCM/BH's. Most of the time...it's just a matter of getting a well timed KD and finishing them off in 2-3 hits. Most of my kills have come with BH having 75% or greater mind left. I can imagine that if they used a health buff crystal...that would be a different story...but I would adapt my strategy as well...then I would go for mind.

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KRAKEN666 wrote:

This has been an issue forever, and now that bh can stack ranger skills on top of the bh/cm skills, its going to get a bit rougher out there. -

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Kraken, seriously dude,learn to play your template better and stop worrying about stuff that 99% of the community can handle without a problem.

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Jacella wrote:

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KRAKEN666 wrote:

This has been an issue forever, and now that bh can stack ranger skills on top of the bh/cm skills, its going to get a bit rougher out there. -

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Kraken, seriously dude,learn to play your template better and stop worrying about stuff that 99% of the community can handle without a problem.

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I wish you were on my server, I could use the PVP rating.

yeah. because jedi are so overpopulated, skill is the only thing that separates the men from the boys. and that should be signified in the new frs. the kiddies in their eagerness to become "leet" will fall because they wont have the patience to "THINK" and figure it out. they will fade, because theres no "IM a jedi so i win button". Yeah, you got your jedi, but youre a joke because youre missing one thing. Strategy.

I hope the best have something that sets them apart considerably which will make them truly unique.

Guys, the reality is that Jedi are 1.5 times stronger then other combat classes, we really really are. That does require us having access to the proper look to make a respectable saber, but at the same time, for a CM, or a mele stacker to compete with us, they need to fork out alot of cash on armor, attachements of their own, enhancements, weapons ect.... So, as far as equipment goes, were all in the same boat.

It all comes down to player skill. There is a mele stacker on my server, who cant be killed, with 4 knights hacking at him, the man wont die until his stomach fills and he runs out of mind. But hes the only one like that, there are tons more with that template, but yet they all die faster, why is that?

Its skill, if you suck, you suck. The thing abotu jedi is, it is way more powerful then other professions, but its also much harder to play then other professions. If you suck, you will always suck no matter what the devs do. YOU are the only person that can fix that, stop whinning and blaming SOE. Suck it up, look in the mirror and learn to be the jedi that you were always meant to be. You didnt spend months of terrible pain and work only to get to where you are now, and throw in the towel.

Remember folks, it takes alot more then just skill points to be a good jedi. It takes a profound knowledge of your dicipline, it takes an even more profound knowledge of everyone elses profession, a good knowledge of pvp, and open mind, and a desire to learn. It also takes good character and integrity. Your template will not put you on top, but you can, if you chose to hear my words and make it happen.

If I can do it, so can you, and belive me, I can do it and I do it very very well.

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mave25 wrote:

Remember folks, it takes alot more then just skill points to be a good jedi. It takes a profound knowledge of your dicipline, it takes an even more profound knowledge of everyone elses profession, a good knowledge of pvp, and open mind, and a desire to learn. It also takes good character and integrity. Your template will not put you on top, but you can, if you chose to hear my words and make it happen.

If I can do it, so can you, and belive me, I can do it and I do it very very well.

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QFE

I'm not going to bother to read the above posts. I'm just sick of all the whiners calling for a CM nerf.

I fight CM's all the time with my jedi and beat them most of the timeand with my CM/BH I fight Jedi--some I lose some I win.

I frequently I fight jedi who have no clue what they are doing. They really suck at pvp. Then they sit there and write whining tells about how CM is overpowered (or post in the forums calling for a nerf).

Learn to play. There is nothing wrong with CM. The only thing wrong is children who dont know how to play.

If you have anything to complain about it is the fact that there are no premiums. If jedi had better sabers they would be winning a lot more.