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Thread: Saber Crafting

Eked
Wed May 11, 2005 10:21 am
#40
you need to have a crafting station selected.



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Tenfo
Wed May 11, 2005 10:29 am
#41

You just need to be standing in front of a 45.0 (or close to) weapons/droid crafting station in a private building.


It helps if you also have bespin port, pyrollian cake and good LS tool 14.85+.





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nyral
Wed May 11, 2005 10:51 am
#42
i was standing infront of a good crafting station and i had a droid out so thats why i asked



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motarian
Wed May 11, 2005 10:57 am
#43
wouldent worry about it o much though, i had 7 points to experiment with and got great to amazing succes on all. it lowered for cost by maybe 2, raised damage 1 point, and lowered speed.2. doesn't really even seem worth finiding the right city with a crafting station and hunting down the food.



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XanthiasTZeruchian
Wed May 11, 2005 11:04 am
#44
Inspiration buffs help now, too, so don't forget those!



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JavaHulk
Wed May 11, 2005 11:29 am
#45




XanthiasTZeruchian wrote:
Inspiration buffs help now, too, so don't forget those!




CRAP I just made a buttload of sabers lol


Im sure it wont help that much, sure = hope =(





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Sportiva
Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:05 am
#46
How are people experimenting on their sabers post-CU.


My pearls were all for the pre-CU world where force cost was king. I have all -8 & -9 FC but the damage values suck (98 is my best). My current saber is experimented fully toward FC and I have a 13 FC I believe, but my DPS sucks. As a MLS, my modified DPS is 417/sec. This is lowest DPS of my three combat characters (see sig), which is pathetic.


Aside from new pearls which is impossible until premies start dropping again, is there a better formula for experimenting on sabers?



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Leiowyn
Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:31 am
#47




Sportiva wrote:
How are people experimenting on their sabers post-CU.


My pearls were all for the pre-CU world where force cost was king. I have all -8 & -9 FC but the damage values suck (98 is my best). My current saber is experimented fully toward FC and I have a 13 FC I believe, but my DPS sucks. As a MLS, my modified DPS is 417/sec. This is lowest DPS of my three combat characters (see sig), which is pathetic.


Aside from new pearls which is impossible until premies start dropping again, is there a better formula for experimenting on sabers?



When making a saber become a resident of a research facility, eat and drink crafting foods and get an inspiration buff.


the SAC cost on a saber caps at 95 with the best resources (on corbantis) after you hit this cap put any experimentation points into damage.


The force costs now on a saber are not nearly as important as for example saber dervish costs "X" amount of force + the force cost of the saber (pre CU this was calculated as (if i have remembered correctly) 4x the cost of the saber , meaning that lower force costs back then were vital)


I crafted one last night with a SAC cost of 95, fc of 14, mod dps 610


My pre-cu saber is SAC cost 100, fc of 15, mod dps 668.


I did read a good post on the pistoleer forums about what to look for when evaluating a weapon.


Clicky doesn't work and although this is about pistols, it does relate to any weapon within the game



When evaluating how good a gun is, you should first look at:


  • Special Attack Cost : Should be under 85.
  • Maximium Damage : As high as possible, guns enhanced with good Krayt tissues or Gorax shards are over 920 maximum damage. All special moves use the Maximum damage stat on the gun when calculating how much damage is done.
  • Attack Speed : around 2 seconds or under.

You can ignore "Estimated Base DPS" and "Your Modifed DPS" due to the following reasons.


The formula used for calculating DPS on a gun is as follows:


Estimated Base DPS = Minimum Damage+ Maximum Damage/ 2 + elemental dmg / Attack Speed



Your Modified DPS= Minimum Damage+ Maximum Damage/ 2 + elemental dmg / Your modified speed


This formula doesn't take into account any Special Action Cost costs or damage modifiers from special moves. Lets look at a couple of guns.


This one that Yukiko found:



Krayted DL44XT


Attack Speed : 1.8
Damage : 337-948

Estimated Base DPS : 360

Special Action Cost : 113 special cost


And this one from Sakir:


Gorax Featherweight FWG5


Attack Speed : 2.03
Damage : 367-938
Estimated Base DPS : 321.54

Special Action Cost : 81 special cost


We see here that the DL44XT has about 40 more Base DPS than the FWG5 but the FWG5 is a much better gun due to the low SAC costs which would enable the pistoleer to fire a lot more shots before running out of action.You can also see the maximum damage is quite similar.


In summary, DPS can be used as a guide, but you should look at the factors detailed above when evaluating a good pistol.


When crafting a pistol, ask the weaponsmith to experiment on all the compnents for the best SAC reduction and get the SAC down under 85, then put the rest into damage. Hopefully the speed will be around 2 or under.


Hope this helps you, good luck

Message Edited by Leiowyn on 06-22-2005 03:32 PM

Message Edited by Leiowyn on 06-22-2005 03:35 PM



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Kakov
Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:52 am
#48
Can u krayt a saber (i've never been WS so don't understand the weapon construction process)?



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wvsom
Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:55 am
#49




Kakov wrote:
Can u krayt a saber (i've never been WS so don't understand the weapon construction process)?



You cannot.



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Kakov
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:03 am
#50

wvsom wrote:

Kakov wrote:
Can u krayt a saber (i've never been WS so don't understand the weapon construction process)?

You cannot.




Thought not... dang...



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Sportiva
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:57 am
#51

Leiowyn,


Thanks for the reply. I didn't realize that's the new way FC was calculated.





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RubicksCube
Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:00 pm
#52
Just to verify...


The best privateweapon crafting station to do this in front of with your Saber Crafting Tool is 45 for quality, correct?


And what is the best quality saber crafting tool to use? I was told it was 15, is that true?



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