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Thread: im taking a stand agaist BH

PanzerIV
Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:52 am
#40

nerf the bh profession, aye!...really, jedi is hard to get, hard to be, get over it.



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daz007
Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:54 am
#41






PanzerIV wrote:
nerf the bh profession, aye!...really, jedi is hard to get, hard to be, get over it.






once apon a time, back when the profession was respected...




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DoreanGrae
Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:57 am
#42






GlargTheKelfn wrote:
i actually signed up & pay to play a game, not be someone else's content.

what needs ot happen is a on leave 'opt-in' system for bh pvp just like every other pvp in the game.

as more and more of the game's population (you know, the 'carebears' who don't want to pvp) become jedi, the argument for forced pvp grows weaker. make it opt in, or remove the xp loss. let the jedi who want to pvp continue to pvp, and let the other play their character (pve) like they want.





Incorrect. Jedi = PvP


Are Jedi forced to PvP? Essentially, since you can only control your vis rating to a certain degree.


Are you forced to be a Jedi? No, so there's no way you can say that you're beyond a doubt being forced to PvP. You have the option to not PvP, you just chose the wrong profession.





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I support removing Jedi from the game rather than leaving them as represented in NGE

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Thassk
Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:11 pm
#43






mmmmmpie wrote:

actually im running. i am a master enhancer. i have decided that its not worth my time and effort to fight a BH and possibly die and lose xp. untill BH get a penalty for death other than losing our mission, i will not stand and fight a single BH. i will stasis peace out drop hose /logout in front of them. i urge you all to let BH come after you but not let them kill you. do whatever you can to get away. we have no incentive to fight. until BH have a penalty comparable to ours for death. i will not fight a BH.






nothing wrong with putting up a chaseor running... some of the most memoriable moments in my favorite action movies is when one of the people involved in the conflict run ... would the french connection be as awesome if the assasin didnt run in the end .. making popeye chase him through the streets and trainsof manhattan ...


sure you may have not picked the best jedi template for battle .. well to battlecertain BH anyway ... but that doesnt mean much ... every dog has his day ... you may lose to one BH who beat a jedi who lost to you ... follow my logic? every template has its counter template ... enjoy the game .. run if you feel like it stand and fight if you feel like it ..


if someone talks trash .. take them for what they are... dirty scum ...


although this is a game, who says we cant live it as if it were real life ..our goal shouldnt be for position and "PVP rank" ... it should be about experiencing FUN and or FUNNY things ...


the best or most funfight ive ever had with a jedi was a chase which took place across two cities ... and the tides turned many times ...


Message Edited by Thassk on 10-07-2005 12:54 AM



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Drodig
Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:33 pm
#44






mmmmmpie wrote:

actually im running. i am a master enhancer. i have decided that its not worth my time and effort to fight a BH and possibly die and lose xp. untill BH get a penalty for death other than losing our mission, i will not stand and fight a single BH. i will stasis peace out drop hose /logout in front of them. i urge you all to let BH come after you but not let them kill you. do whatever you can to get away. we have no incentive to fight. until BH have a penalty comparable to ours for death. i will not fight a BH.





I dont think they need to loose anything until they are made an elite class, but I do run from all of them. Actually, I did run from them. I don't play my jedi anymore . I have beaten some, and lost to others, but I started running when all the fights were the same. That gets boring. No worries about XP loss... I've got my template, I just don't wanna waste the time on it.




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En1Gma
Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:56 pm
#45






mmmmmpie wrote:

actually im running. i am a master enhancer. i have decided that its not worth my time and effort to fight a BH and possibly die and lose xp. untill BH get a penalty for death other than losing our mission, i will not stand and fight a single BH. i will stasis peace out drop hose /logout in front of them. i urge you all to let BH come after you but not let them kill you. do whatever you can to get away. we have no incentive to fight. until BH have a penalty comparable to ours for death. i will not fight a BH.






Sadly for you, many people do not do this. As a BH I have made MILLIONS because of the over insurgance of Jedi. I have only lost 12 times....but Ive killed over 72 Jedi (some were the same)


I have no secrets and I do it any way I can. No...I dont exploit. ButI find your weaknesses (hint: for the majority of you Jedi...you just love to stand around Theed and duel. This is where I make my big bucks. usually the more powerful Jedi do this. They get done grinding and they love to show off. I just sit there being all merry and what not and then close in for my kill.


I have 5 other strategies that work wonders too but there's no need to post em (as Im sure many of you already know). You see, Jedi are a lot like a wild animal that dwells among public human areas. We have no problems if the herd is sparse. However, if the herd grows too large or starts to wander to close to the city, then we (the hunters) are encouraged to take them out.


It's a shame that we only kill you. Ive been pressing the DEVs to give us non-working replicas of the hunted's Saber that we killed. I wouldnt mind having 72 lightsabers adorned the wall of my house (next to the taxi-dermied heads of the other animals I had hunted).


You can run all you want, but we have tools to find you. I have ways of getting a Jedi off guard. I always do. If I get killed I make a note and pay respect to that Jedi because I know he knows what he's doing and how to do it. However, I have no regard or sympathy for the Jedi that jumps up and down in front of a major starport flashing his saber like an overexcited majorette the day she first gets her twirling wand.


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PorkenBeans
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:47 pm
#46


I love BH visits. It makes the game fun for me, never knowing when I'll have to pvp. Unlike almost all overt encounters,there is a 97% percent chance it will be a 1vs1 and I know he has an inferior template so what more can youaskyou for? I died many times to them until I got over the hump in my temp and started winning every single time and I love it. You would be surprised by the reaction you get most times by bull rushing them as soon as you see them.If they have my mission (i duel them to check) and if they do and are not making a move I talk mad trash until they do (the smart ones just leave and get another mission). Now there are a few that can kill me, but very few and I think thats just aboutright. And even the weaker ones have a chance to catch me fighting something else and win but that is when I do run if I can. When I get force bar back up I send tells offering to settle the dispute once and for all. And by fighting almost all bh I have become4x the pvp'er I was before.


If you have FR2/3why not at least fight somewhen you can flee at any point anyways? You will get some /deathblows on them and if it gets hairy just leave. Many BH's are just plain noobs and have no ideahow to go on the defensive anyways and if you say they don't lose anything, they do. You hurt their feelings as evidenced by no response from /tell's. I know I have caused some hurled mousepads and imediate /logout's,


DoreanGrae
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:48 pm
#47






therealrosh wrote:






daz007 wrote:





DoreanGrae wrote:





GlargTheKelfn wrote:
and now the majority are opting to get the game changed to suit their playstyle.

you did see that big box that says gameplay may change everytime you log in?

i DIDN'T see one that says anything about jedi = pvp or that you will be hounded.

change is coming. get in front of it, or get run over





Since the first rumblings of Jedi info came out waaaaaaay back in Beta, it was said that being a Jedi would be a difficult life. It said that you would be hunted. It said it would not be easy, by any means. This is one of the last things that keeps everybody (though evidently not yourself) from being a Jedi. Most people who don't like to PvP accept that Jedi is a PvP-based profession, and then use basic logic that probably goes something like this:


Thought: "I don't like to PvP."


Observation: "Becoming a Jedi makes you PvP."


Conclusion: "I shouldn't become a Jedi."








too simple right?






I dont understand why you guys cant grasp the concept of risk vs reward vs time spent.

why should i bother to fight you?

I have nothing against you coming after me, but i chose not to return the favor. You see, you wish to engage in a fight with me, either to prove uberness(for some), for credits(for others), or just for the pvp(for those scared to go overt), or a combo of the 3. and thats fine, its a valid playstyle that is returned by many.

However, I get nothing from winning, not a thing other than the screenshot, and yet another person on my ignore list if you are rude about my choice. so why bother?






Two things:


1) I'm not sure if I was included in the "you guys," but I shouldn't be. I'm a Jedi, not a BH.


2) I have no problem with Jedi running from BH's. I do it myself. In many cases we're overpowered.Being able to tellwhen you're not going to make it is a very important skill to have. Which do you value more? Your pride or your hard-earned XP?





Dorean Grae, Follower of the Force

Jerso Shard, Rebel Commander

"A Jedi's strength flows from the Force, but beware the Dark Side. Anger, fear, aggression, the Dark Side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. Once you start down the Dark Path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you it will."

I support removing Jedi from the game rather than leaving them as represented in NGE

December 7, 2005: The Day SOE loses another customer
Jacella
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:57 pm
#48








DoreanGrae wrote:


Two things:


1) I'm not sure if I was included in the "you guys," but I shouldn't be. I'm a Jedi, not a BH.


2) I have no problem with Jedi running from BH's. I do it myself. In many cases we're overpowered.Being able to tellwhen you're not going to make it is a very important skill to have. Which do you value more? Your pride or your hard-earned XP?






Why does this irk me? Simple, the xp you get now is absolutely insane. Hard-earned? Nope. The only people who had an easier grind were the Warren campers...and heck, even they had more risks than you.






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KammaRocca
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:09 pm
#49






TheCapn2000 wrote:





KammaRocca wrote:
I'll stop believing the misconception that Jedi have nothing to gain by being the only class in the game forced to PVP the day you lose your alts.





you are really hung up on that aren't you...Most jedi I know have other accounts anyway...so the alt thing you speak of is really a myth...




So you don't unlock another character you can do whatever you want with with in addition to your Jedi character allowing you to have twice as many professions as anybody else on the same server as well as avoid forced PVP?Maybe that was just another myth started by the other bounty hunters.
TheCapn2000
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:21 pm
#50






KammaRocca wrote:





TheCapn2000 wrote:





KammaRocca wrote:
I'll stop believing the misconception that Jedi have nothing to gain by being the only class in the game forced to PVP the day you lose your alts.





you are really hung up on that aren't you...Most jedi I know have other accounts anyway...so the alt thing you speak of is really a myth...




So you don't unlock another character you can do whatever you want with with in addition to your Jedi character allowing you to have twice as many professions as anybody else on the same server as well as avoid forced PVP?Maybe that was just another myth started by the other bounty hunters.



so it is the people who play jedi at fault for having the second character?




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TheCapn2000
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:22 pm
#51


double post

Message Edited by TheCapn2000 on 10-07-2005 04:31 PM



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TheCapn2000
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:30 pm
#52






Jacella wrote:








DoreanGrae wrote:


Two things:


1) I'm not sure if I was included in the "you guys," but I shouldn't be. I'm a Jedi, not a BH.


2) I have no problem with Jedi running from BH's. I do it myself. In many cases we're overpowered.Being able to tellwhen you're not going to make it is a very important skill to have. Which do you value more? Your pride or your hard-earned XP?






Why does this irk me? Simple, the xp you get now is absolutely insane. Hard-earned? Nope. The only people who had an easier grind were the Warren campers...and heck, even they had more risks than you.





2 different systems...apples and oranges...I wish people would stop comparing pre-CU and post CU....




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