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"Right, so again, point out to me which skill IN POWERS we can use for our alpha strike. Mind you, I'm talking about one that won't make every bounty hunter laugh when we do it."

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Heres an example combat log

jedi alpha strikes bh for 20 points of damage (19 dmg was resisted by armor)

bhstrikes jedi for 1500 points of dmg

bh deathblows jedi

Bottom line is cloak is very cool and most everyone who doesnt have it is so jealous that they had to have it nerfed.

Message Edited by Gamesanator on 09-23-2005 04:52 PM

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darlokes wrote:

I WANT MSNIL AS THE NEW CORRESPONDENT!

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MsNiL wrote:

I thought I should put my point of view on this subject.

So there's a new code for invisible players. I understand the reasons behind it andstreamlining is good.

However, right now the entire Force Powers Skillset is not balanced with the new rules added in the Combat Upgrade, and investing in the skillset "Master Powers" is therefore very unrewarding and unbalanced. Cloak is frankly the only remaining power in the entire skillset that makes it rewarding, and it's also currently their only means of survival unless the skillset is replanned and recoded into a new design.

So adding a new code that makes Cloak less worth it right now is a horrible insult against thoose players who instead of taking the best of the best, picked Powers for fun and for roleplaying reasons.

My suggestion is that the new code for Force Cloak is not published right now, or if needed, it's published without the "snare" component for now.

Master Powers have nothing to do with the Ranger Revamp. Do not in any way reduce the usefulness of the Cloak power untilthere's enough time to take a look at and recode the entire skillset, balancing the entire skillset according to the new rules, against other Jedi, against Bounty Hunters, and against the rest of the game.

Only when people can say that 4000 0400 0040 0004 and master force powers is rewarding and fun to play it's ok to make invisibility work like the rest as a part of a complete revamp.

Do not do to Powers like you did to Healer, and frankly stop nerfing Jedi professions before you have time to upgrade Jedi to be balanced to the Combat Upgrade.

Message Edited by MsNiL on 09-24-2005 12:30 AM

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Shender wrote:

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Katalisha wrote:

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Shender wrote:
Ok, let me get some things straight...

Everyone says MPowers is super weak. Alright, so we have established MPowers=weak.

If anyone reads the forums, they know this.

So that means when someone goes MPowers, they will know that they will be weak because they know MPowers=weak.

So why do people go MPowers and then complain about not being strong enough? People have to change their templates if it isn't strong enough for their liking. If you don't like MPowers, DO NOT BE MPOWERS! Simple logic really.

Anyway, I do agree that Powers deserve a revamp as most of their skills are pretty much useless (choke is, however, awesome). But there is no way you can stop the cloak nerf. People just cloaking through DWB/Vette and looting... People just healing others in PvP while cloaked... Cloakers nerfed themselves with the improper use of their skill. It should be an escape mechanism or a first strike mechanism as said by the devs. It really is tough luck.

And besides, when do you actually think this Ranger/cloak revamp thing will come out? They screwed up Pub24 and haven't even released it again to TC. That was for SL. Pub 25 for Ranger? When do you think that will be? November? Seriously, some Jedi just need to put things in perspective and analyze these things.

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Not everyone wants the uber leet fotm ftw template - some people like to have fun.

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But see, there you go. You must choose one thing over the other. I know this sounds funny, but I remember PreCU when I wanted to be a Ranger for the tracking and a rifleman. Sounded like so much fun, but it just wasn't practical for my style of gaming. You have to choose what you want-be a FotM-ish type person and perform exceptionally well or be a fun template and not be up to par to that of the FotM-ish template.

It really comes down to Fun vs. Performance. Some choose fun, some choose performance, and some choose a balance. You have to decide for yourself what you want to do.

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/agree with OP