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Thread: Discuss: Current Levels of Negative Jedi XP

X_Wedge_X
Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:13 pm
#40

I never fightclubbed hence never hit master. My lowest amount of negative Jedi XP was 13 mil, highest rank was Rank 3.
HanzoShinobi
Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:16 pm
#41

Im at -10mil, I lost all mine soloing the vette for my knight trials and pvping while perma-overt pre-cu. Since they took out pve and pvp xp loss, they could do 1 xp wipe. I dont mind grinding again if I wanted to change temps, but Im not grinding out 10mil xp just to start the temp change.



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AfeeElandra
Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:19 pm
#42






Baciacca wrote:

Ok everyone, I was reading a thread about Jedi that were beyond the negative XP cap and got a little curious.


To my knowledge the Jedi negative XP cap is negative 10 million XP. If you reached Master in the old FRS system your XP cap was raised to negative 12 million XP.


My questions are:

How many of you are currently beyond negative 10 million XP but never reached the Rank of Master?


How many of you are currently beyond negative 12 million XP and did reach the Rank ofMaster?






To what purpose do we answer? For your personal information/forum audience - of have you been approached by the devs as they are considering changing the xp min/max?


I am against numerous "what do you thinks" if there is no objective other than to give the illusion that the information will be used to shape the game. I cynically beleive that all these types of threads are not useful in shaping the game and are just there to keep the masses happy.


Bac. I want to be wrong. Can you tell me?





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Jacella
Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:18 pm
#43






c0kes wrote:





MrPistoleer wrote:
LOL!!

This is too funny Bacciaca asks 2 simple questions and out of 20+ people I think 5 total answered him. The rest of these kids pull out their soup bowls and start begging for gifts! This proves so many of my points, now I will wait for Jacella to post her sermon.





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Steegee
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:19 pm
#44

i dunno hwo you got the neg cap info, but since patch9 my jedi was only rank 1. I've reached -10.7mill on her. Currently i've been working it off and i'm at -4.5mill.





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Agraco
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:59 pm
#45






BountyHunterTHX1138 wrote:





SumaTrig wrote:

How about a negative max of 0 and a positive max of infinite. Serioulsy, why not turn off negative xp once someone has alloated all their sp to Jedi? Why make someone regrind -10 mil xp if they need or want to respec. What is the logic begind negative xp once you are done with your template. Take it away for full template Jedi, and maybe more of them would be willing to stand and fight BH. Just a thought.









Sorry, but thats plain silly.




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Chieftain1900
Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:25 am
#46


I'm Double Master and 76k Positive XP, I hate playing for that fact of the negative XP and have barely logged on in 2-3 weeks because of the forced PVP.


I'm not crying or anything just a fact, I am bored with the game and fighting a BH whenever I log on is not fun for me.





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Tanilith
Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:35 am
#47






BukuJohnson wrote:
When you bring this up to the devs do you think you could hit them up for a raise in our max banked xp?


When Patch 9 went into effect it brought with it the FRS. Due to the active pvp requirements of this new system the devs rightly removed the skill box loss penalty for death. At this time the devs also increased the pay out for player bounties from 15k per successful mission to hundreds of thousands of credits, and imposed xp loss on the Jedi community of 2k xp per each skill point spent on Jedi skills.

The devs stated that the purpose of this xp loss was to prevent Jedi and BH from teaming up to farm credits off of the player bounty mission system. The caps were set at -10mil and +4mil with no explanation given as to why there was such a large disparity between the two.

The player bounty revamp of P22 removed the names of the Jedi from the mission terminals, and reduced the payouts on missions completed for the same Jedi within a specific period of time. These changes made the ability for BH and Jedi to team up and farm credits much more difficult, and subsequently it effects the original logic behind the negative xp system.

Balancing the penalty to deter potential abuse of the the player bounty system, with risk of loss to both Jedi and BH would likely prove unpopular to a large segment of the player base.

As a result of the recent changes to the player bounty system, and the acceptance that the BH community would not likely want to share in the risk of penalty for potential abuse of the the player bounty system, the negative xp and the positive xp system needs to be re-assessed.

I propose that Padawans carry a tiered negative xp cap proportionate to the current positive xp that they can bank. Additionally it is logical that if higher ranks in the FRS carry a higher neg xp cap, they should also carry a higher banked xp cap. For Knights each rank above Padawan should carry with it an increase to both the negative and positve xp cap of 500k.

The Jedi community has carried the burden of penalty for potential abuse of the player bounty system for over a year now. Certainly the feedback from Jedi players has shown that this one sided penalty has been unpopular.



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_Cicero_
Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:23 am
#48





Slash_DPC wrote:





BukuJohnson wrote:
When you bring this up to the devs do you think you could hit them up for a raise in our max banked xp?


Buku
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/agree




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iskareot
Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:23 am
#49

Bac, I was at -10 mill it did stop I made rank one once and then back to Knight...


Never went past the 10 mill -- nor did I fight club so who knows.


However on the flip side please dont say there will NOW be a wipe -- lol


Not that it was hard andmind you --- Jedi now grinding is a freaking joke....


In two weeks 3 hours or so a night -- I got out of my 10 mill hole and got one tree and since then I have almost capped XP -- I hate seeing how cheesy and easy this grind is now.


My old 8 months is now a 3 -4 weeks tops if that easy grind with only BHs to worry about.


These Devs need to grab thier balls and make it hard again, a three week Jedi is the ones that will cry nerf and the Whambulance at the same time... this crap has got to stop. Either that or make it a starting profession and lets ruin the game the right way and get it over with.



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yobip
Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:51 am
#50


i was and now am a master(pre and post CU), and i was at -15 mil.



Yes, i did grind out of this, and get another 15 mil xp for a new temp... trust me, u guys got it WAYYYYY easier now...



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Anakroid
Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:15 am
#51






yobip wrote:


i was and now am a master(pre and post CU), and i was at -15 mil.



Yes, i did grind out of this, and get another 15 mil xp for a new temp... trust me, u guys got it WAYYYYY easier now...






Easier? Ok probably so, but jedi is so gimped it wasn't worth the trouble. My non-jedi ismuch better in pve.



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slippinghalo
Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:24 am
#52







Baciacca wrote:

Ok everyone, I was reading a thread about Jedi that were beyond the negative XP cap and got a little curious.


To my knowledge the Jedi negative XP cap is negative 10 million XP. If you reached Master in the old FRS system your XP cap was raised to negative 12 million XP.


My questions are:

How many of you are currently beyond negative 10 million XP but never reached the Rank of Master?


How many of you are currently beyond negative 12 million XP and did reach the Rank ofMaster?









i think the real issue here is mabari belts





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