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Had a fair crystal off Lok awhile back that tuned 100 -2. Never seen one that hit that much damage before orsince.

Fair crystal

19 dmg -2 FC

Good Pearls

good pearl

34/34 -0.11 2/0/0/ -3



fair crystal

36/36 -0.05 2/0/0/ -2

Thanks guys for continuing to support this project. My original hypothsis is holding up pretty well as the tune numbers come in.

really nice work Keep this page as a sticky ! I will keep posting my tunes

Bear in mind speed reductions also play an impact on your damage rates, and the higher the base damage of your saber, the more impact speed will have. Absent any other modifiers and assuming a base two second attack rate, the impact of a single crystal pearl with both damage and speed modifiers factored in:

Crystal Only Speed
- (0.05) (0.10) (0.15) (0.20) (0.25)
Dam 2.00 1.95 1.90 1.85 1.80 1.75
---------------------------------------------
10 5.00 5.13 5.26 5.41 5.56 5.71
20 10.00 10.26 10.53 10.81 11.11 11.43
30 15.00 15.38 15.79 16.22 16.67 17.14
40 20.00 20.51 21.05 21.62 22.22 22.86
50 25.00 25.64 26.32 27.03 27.78 28.57
60 30.00 30.77 31.58 32.43 33.33 34.29
70 35.00 35.90 36.84 37.84 38.89 40.00
80 40.00 41.03 42.11 43.24 44.44 45.71
90 45.00 46.15 47.37 48.65 50.00 51.43
100 50.00 51.28 52.63 54.05 55.56 57.14
110 55.00 56.41 57.89 59.46 61.11 62.86


But as the total damage of your saber increases, including the impact of crystals and pearls, speed affects dps even more:


Base Damage 300
Dam 2.00 1.95 1.90 1.85 1.80 1.75
---------------------------------------------
300 150.00 153.85 157.89 162.16 166.67 171.43
310 155.00 158.97 163.16 167.57 172.22 177.14
320 160.00 164.10 168.42 172.97 177.78 182.86
330 165.00 169.23 173.68 178.38 183.33 188.57
340 170.00 174.36 178.95 183.78 188.89 194.29
350 175.00 179.49 184.21 189.19 194.44 200.00
360 180.00 184.62 189.47 194.59 200.00 205.71
370 185.00 189.74 194.74 200.00 205.56 211.43
380 190.00 194.87 200.00 205.41 211.11 217.14
390 195.00 200.00 205.26 210.81 216.67 222.86
400 200.00 205.13 210.53 216.22 222.22 228.57


Base Damage 500
Dam 2.00 1.95 1.90 1.85 1.80 1.75
---------------------------------------------
500 250.00 256.41 263.16 270.27 277.78 285.71
510 255.00 261.54 268.42 275.68 283.33 291.43
520 260.00 266.67 273.68 281.08 288.89 297.14
530 265.00 271.79 278.95 286.49 294.44 302.86
540 270.00 276.92 284.21 291.89 300.00 308.57
550 275.00 282.05 289.47 297.30 305.56 314.29
560 280.00 287.18 294.74 302.70 311.11 320.00
570 285.00 292.31 300.00 308.11 316.67 325.71
580 290.00 297.44 305.26 313.51 322.22 331.43
590 295.00 302.56 310.53 318.92 327.78 337.14
600 300.00 307.69 315.79 324.32 333.33 342.86

With a base damage of 500, the +40, -0.25 pearl looks to be a better choice than a +100, -0.05 pearl. Even less obviously, the 0 damage, -0.25 pearl might be a better choice than the +70, -0 speed pearl.

If anyone has the crunching talent to factor in the impact of other modifiers, and also compare to real-world (okay, "virtual" world) data, we can take this up to the next level.

And, obviously, this also assumes saber speed can be fixed to work as intended--or as one would intuitively believe it should work.

My apologies for the off formatting. Durn SOE for accepting Microsoft's payoff and keeping Firefox and the graphical editor from playing nicely in the sandbox together. If anyone using IE were to cut and paste this into the graphical editor and tweak it so the columns line up to be easier to read, I would appreciate it.

Message Edited by grayoberon on 09-25-2005 07:42 AM

Interesting Grayoberon,

I'll have to try out some different combos based on the speed modifier vs. the overall damage. Thanks for adding to the information.

I bought five crystals yesterday for 220k each, and I tuned them in my alts house to avoid vis, as mine has a base behind it. I got two with over 90 damage each. I guess I must be lucky - all the crystals were fair quality. The others rated 20s and up, so i stuck the two high damage ones in my 3rd gen saber and one lower value 20 something, but with -9 force cost. I am only cl 40 with no third level boxes yet.

Congrats Yeobot! I've personally tuned mrore than 100 cyrstals and have never gotten one over 90, and you get 2. You lucky dog.

Ok, I logged just to get the data, since I didn't realize they (high damage) were so rare now.

The crystals tuned as follows:

94/-0.16/-2 wound 1

90/-0.00/-4

28/-0.23/-2 wound 1

21/-0.12/-9

24/-0.02/-4

So I guess the rest were crappy tunings, except for the ones with the high damage I only got twenties. I included the -9 force cost one, just because I figure the less force cost for me is worth it. I had two crystals from before the CU and these five I bought, or a total of 7 crystals in total. I didn't include the two pre CU crystals, but they weren't anything to write home about either.

Thanks guys, I'll add the new info over the next few days.

Good pearl tunes

97 -6
23 -2
70 -3
51 -6
33 -3
37 -3
65 -4
84 -4
29 -2
50 -5
30 -4

that all for now, and finally i got a tune worth keeping