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Thread: reguarding force Cloke

edmund28
Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:39 pm
#27

Let's get one thing right


This is how it went we were fighting , he was loseing


he dind't run away and cloke but he hit it right in front of me basicy so I couldn't attack him anymore he basicy regained his action mind, and force powers and then decide to start fighting again.


The way he used it reguardless of what you think is an explot. and confermed by the CSR's. Thing is your supose to be out of range before you can use it your not supose to be able to turn it on and off at will in front of someone in mid-battle like he did, you guys seem to think i'm asking for a nerff when in really i'm asking that it be fixed to the way it was supose to be. i use to have that move and it didn't work like that. I"m sure it will be only a matter of time before it gets fixed to the way it's supsoe to be.
TheMonkeyDude
Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:56 pm
#28






edmund28 wrote:

Let's get one thing right


This is how it went we were fighting , he was loseing


he dind't run away and cloke but he hit it right in front of me basicy so I couldn't attack him anymore he basicy regained his action mind, and force powers and then decide to start fighting again.


The way he used it reguardless of what you think is an explot. and confermed by the CSR's. Thing is your supose to be out of range before you can use it your not supose to be able to turn it on and off at will in front of someone in mid-battle like he did, you guys seem to think i'm asking for a nerff when in really i'm asking that it be fixed to the way it was supose to be. i use to have that move and it didn't work like that. I"m sure it will be only a matter of time before it gets fixed to the way it's supsoe to be.





You can use it in the middle of a fight, provided you are at least 20m away from anything.


If he cloaked under that limit your expierienceing LAG not an exploit you RETARD.


magneto2
Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:59 pm
#29

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Ialwysdie
Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:01 pm
#30






edmund28 wrote:

Ok hear's the deal,


I duled a master powers master Enh in a duel. It was a very friendy duel, however this is what I noticed during the duel.


We both started out fighting pretty eveny but as the fight went on I started to gain the upper hand, and to my shock, this jedi used cloke right in front of my face and basicy took himself out of the duel re-gained his health, action and mind pool then picked up where the fight left off and did beat me.


Today I went into a chat room and asked 2 CSR's if clokeing during battle is an explot, and they plainy said twice at 2 differient times during the chat session that cloking while in combat is a explot of the game. This guy in chat who i'm guessing has cloke started to havey flame me, calling my defender skills gay and cheap. I guess the point i'm making is this, he was saying my AI in defender is compared to cloking or status is compared to cloking while in mid-combat. but fact is cloke was never ment to be used in the way it's being used right now so basicy what I was tring to find out is if it's ment to be like that, and both CSR's said no it's an explot. seems to me jedi are getting pist off becuase they want to keep this explot but in really it was never ment to be the way it is now.


I'm not asking for any jedi to be nerfed but I thought the way this jedi beat me was very cheap and exploted his move becuase I had cloke at one time and it never worked like it's working right now. You try to find out info on something and report something to a CSR and you get flamed for it I don't know what's wrong with people. And if he thinks defender is so powerful then maybe he should spend his points getting it. Some people feel they dont' want defender and there skills should be as powerful as someone else's who did spend skill points. So I don't know what to think any more, some food for thought is all....


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Well reading what your saying and what the CSR may have said I think you are turning the situation around to try to get cloaked nerfed.


If the Jedi is able to cloak within 20m of you yes that is an exploit and I think that is what the CSR was meaning as far as an Exploit you probably worded it like.


Is it an exploit for a Jedi to cloak during combat Right in front of me?

CSR response "Yes that is an exploit."


So now you are taking the parts of that and trying to get being able to cloak in combat as being an exploit and dropping the fact that you claim he is doing it within the 20m that they should not be able to.


If he is able to use Cloak within 20m of you or any other mob or NPC or even a dang speederbike well then yes he is Exploiting.


Being able to cloak while aggroed is not an exploit.


Being able to attack while remaining cloaked is an exploit.


I'm pretty sure you are just taking what you want to hear to fuel a Nerf cloak campaign.


Also the I don't take CSR's word's as law. The dev's design the game and only their word is law.


sanct_squadleader
Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:52 pm
#31

you can cloak in front of group members. were you grouped with him?



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edmund28
Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:23 pm
#32


yes we both were grouped to advid vis but it was a duel? so he shoudln' tof been able to do it. I do understand the 20 m thing but he was more like 5 m in front of me now if it's because we were grouped then that may be the dfferience and to the guy that called me a retard kiss my rear end if you can find a latter high enough, you want to turn this debate yes that's whwat this is a debate into something else that's your problem.



Latter guys



TheMonkeyDude
Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:34 pm
#33






edmund28 wrote:


yes we both were grouped to advid vis but it was a duel? so he shoudln' tof been able to do it. I do understand the 20 m thing but he was more like 5 m in front of me now if it's because we were grouped then that may be the dfferience and to the guy that called me a retard kiss my rear end if you can find a latter high enough, you want to turn this debate yes that's whwat this is a debate into something else that's your problem.



Latter guys









I'm 6'4" in rl, chances are you'll need to get on a stool to say your insults to my face.Oh, it's ladder not latter.


Fact is you didn't give the csr's all the facts(nor us) and come here screaming xploit like a little girl, that fits perfectly into what i consider to be retarded behavior.


If he is grouped with you he can cloak standing right on top of you(or with x amount of group memebers nearby). YOu can cloak while in combat so it does not take into account that you are fighting each other, it merely checks to see if your grouped or not.


And finally, in conclousion you assume that i actually care what you think of me. You are sadly mistaken.
edmund28
Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:04 pm
#34

I could care less what you think, fact is when you act in such ways that you are right now your only showing yourself to be a jerk and you know what I don't care if you don't care what I think I could care less what you think of me too. You know what this thead is become a pointless debate. so it's like this, we all have our opions of what is right and wrong, and making fun of someone's spelling or gramer just makes you look like a jerk in my view. That's all I have to say.


See ya!


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jimmyjonson
Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:06 pm
#35

Rofl this guy cracks me up STICKY THIS!



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cloudwalker1
Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:09 am
#36






edmund28 wrote:


yes we both were grouped to advid vis but it was a duel? so he shoudln' tof been able to do it. I do understand the 20 m thing but he was more like 5 m in front of me now if it's because we were grouped then that may be the dfferience and to the guy that called me a retard kiss my rear end if you can find a latter high enough, you want to turn this debate yes that's whwat this is a debate into something else that's your problem.



Latter guys








And once he has that nerfed his next post will be ......


Jedi shouldnt be allowed to attack me in a duel







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ahood
Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:46 am
#37

At first I thought this guy was a whining moron who is basically saying "I lost and the reason I lost cant be that I suck and it must be an exploit"


However, the more he opens his mouth, the more I am amazed how much he is shoving his foot in it. Doesnt he realise you can cloak and coverup next to group members? So he duels a groupie than is shocked when he cloaks at 5m. If you want to duel and have it so they have to be 20m away to cloak - dont group first!


Its hard to find wisdom to offer to people this stupid, but this is my best shot:


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DeeckTator
Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:51 am
#38

Do not belive a single word the CSR's say... I don't think they lie intentially, they just doesn't know better... I have gotten some wierd replies on tickets. Many of them have no clue whats going on coz they don't really play the game...



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Eskie
Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:39 am
#39



edmund28 wrote:
(... something about CSRs stating cloaking while in combat is an exploit ...)




Lesson learned: Not every CSR has a clue of the game. Be happy you werent told to update your graphics drivers.
If a Jedi gets away 20m from all players, NPCs and objects cloaking is a legal move. If he did it right on top of you, you might have experienced lag.



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