Jedi Archive
Thread: Fix the cloak agro bug/exploit
SuperCrazyRebel wrote:
you guys are all a buncha whiny kids. He came here to ask for this exploit to be fixed and you all start flaming him cause you have nothing better to do. It's really stupid that a group of 3 jedi and a crafter can make jetpacks and mando armor and it needs to be fixed. And Arias helped craft the second jetpack ever made in SWG, only lost to eclipse by 2 hours, meaning he did it pre-cu, without cloakers even existing. Now go back and crawl in your little holes and stop flaming people who are actually making legitimate posts asking for an exploit to be fixed.
Well, let's look into this a bit more. He came here asking for this exploit to be fixed, did he?
AriasImmortal wrote:
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Indeed, I have. it was a walk in the park. Using the cloak agro is an EXPLOIT. I really doubt that the developers intended you to get agro when you cloak, so by definition, those who use this method are exploiting: Using a bug to gain an unintended advantage over other players. And no, I'm not saying this because I'm an elitist and I don't want people to have all the cool stuff I have. It just makes me angry that after all the hard work I've been through (crafted my first jetpack september 3rd, 2004, literally the DAY they fixed jetpack crafting), people can just waltz in and do it with little to no challenge.
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Apparently, he has used the 'exploit' himself. Did he stop what he was doing because it was an 'exploit?' Not before he finished craftinga jetpack apparently... he admits he's done it. "Let me test the exploit a little longer... ok jetpack's done, NOW it's an exploit." But now he wants it fixed. Why? Because he's angry that someone else can get what he got. This is clearly a case of, "I got mine, don't you dare make it easier for anyone else."
If we're going to follow that logic, please put the 10 minute timer back on shuttleports, and remove vehicles and mounts from the game, because in the old days we had to walk everywhere, don't you know. Don't you just hate it that everyone can get where they want to go in no time these days? All that hard work we had to do waiting on shuttles and running 8km across Dantooine wasted.
Angamarth wrote:
SuperCrazyRebel wrote:
you guys are all a buncha whiny kids. He came here to ask for this exploit to be fixed and you all start flaming him cause you have nothing better to do. It's really stupid that a group of 3 jedi and a crafter can make jetpacks and mando armor and it needs to be fixed. And Arias helped craft the second jetpack ever made in SWG, only lost to eclipse by 2 hours, meaning he did it pre-cu, without cloakers even existing. Now go back and crawl in your little holes and stop flaming people who are actually making legitimate posts asking for an exploit to be fixed.
Well, let's look into this a bit more. He came here asking for this exploit to be fixed, did he?
AriasImmortal wrote:
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Indeed, I have. it was a walk in the park. Using the cloak agro is an EXPLOIT. I really doubt that the developers intended you to get agro when you cloak, so by definition, those who use this method are exploiting: Using a bug to gain an unintended advantage over other players. And no, I'm not saying this because I'm an elitist and I don't want people to have all the cool stuff I have. It just makes me angry that after all the hard work I've been through (crafted my first jetpack september 3rd, 2004, literally the DAY they fixed jetpack crafting), people can just waltz in and do it with little to no challenge.
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Apparently, he has used the 'exploit' himself. Did he stop what he was doing because it was an 'exploit?' Not before he finished craftinga jetpack apparently... he admits he's done it. "Let me test the exploit a little longer... ok jetpack's done, NOW it's an exploit." But now he wants it fixed. Why? Because he's angry that someone else can get what he got. This is clearly a case of, "I got mine, don't you dare make it easier for anyone else."
If we're going to follow that logic, please put the 10 minute timer back on shuttleports, and remove vehicles and mounts from the game, because in the old days we had to walk everywhere, don't you know. Don't you just hate it that everyone can get where they want to go in no time these days? All that hard work we had to do waiting on shuttles and running 8km across Dantooine wasted.
AriasImmortal wrote:
MADMAN69UK wrote:
AriasImmortal wrote:
It's letting people exploit the DWB by using cloakers to agro every mob on the way to the mines and to the crafting rooms, without said mobs actually attacking the rest of the group. It's making the DWB a trivial dungeon, which is definitely NOT what its supposed to be. With a cloaker in your group, you can run the entire bunker without fighting anything but the key mobs, which is definetly an exploit.
Message Edited by AriasImmortal on 09-10-2005 01:31 AM
Have you tried this method? It's actually harder than you may think, and requires careful tactics.
Not to mention the force loss the cloaked player gets due to all the NPC's down there.
Indeed, I have. it was a walk in the park. Using the cloak agro is an EXPLOIT. I really doubt that the developers intended you to get agro when you cloak, so by definition, those who use this method are exploiting: Using a bug to gain an unintended advantage over other players. And no, I'm not saying this because I'm an elitist and I don't want people to have all the cool stuff I have. It just makes me angry that after all the hard work I've been through (crafted my first jetpack september 3rd, 2004, literally the DAY they fixed jetpack crafting), people can just waltz in and do it with little to no challenge.
So the fact they just patched it in so turrets can shoot you means....
And you can still be killed while cloaked. If you cluster in w/ rest those NPC do Area and can kill ya.
QFE
Nemesix wrote:
What we need is a developer clarification on whether it is an exploit or not.
IMO, its the devs fault for not testing more of this game before it goes live.....if u dont have cloak just grind it then, if not, stop asking for nerf after nerf after nerf........if stuff follows u while cloaked, well hell, thats not my fault, and if i can pull agro away from buddies, u think im not gonna? its the same in the vette, i can pull every SBD in the place after me, which i tell is VERY, VERY, hard.....ur force drains so fast, and ur DBd the sec your cloak drops
remember this thread is from someone who wants there jet pack to stay rare, which it isnt already, sorry to burst your bubble
Message Edited by magneto2 on 09-11-2005 06:25 PM
AriasImmortal wrote:
It's letting people exploit the DWB by using cloakers to agro every mob on the way to the mines and to the crafting rooms, without said mobs actually attacking the rest of the group. It's making the DWB a trivial dungeon, which is definitely NOT what its supposed to be. With a cloaker in your group, you can run the entire bunker without fighting anything but the key mobs, which is definetly an exploit.Message Edited by AriasImmortal on 09-10-2005 01:31 AM
cloakers drawing aggro is intended. It was put in to keep jedi from sneaking in dungeons like the vette or the platform and looting all the boxes. It draws all the npcs to ya to drain your force real fast. If it wasnt like that a jedi can sneak in lose a bit of force, find a corner, regen and keep going.
