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Thread: How am I ment to escape a BH now?

Dlek_Krego
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:38 am
#27






SavantDude wrote:




Just had a run in with a cm just a few minutes ago and it makes me sick. My temp is mheal mdef saber 0304, havent got the last row in 2h. Its pathetic how they can heal and heal and heal and there insane mind regen. I can take his damage all day long and short of lag the wont out right kill me. Its the damn force regen, Iam running around watching my force bar go down and watching there mind regen totally. They should make mind regen on have the same regen rate as force and then lets see how it goes. It takes no skill to run a person around until they run out of force. This one today went through 2 full spice runs and kept comeing. Iam tired of it. Tired of the unending nerfs to us and the lifting of the bh. They kd me 8 out of 10 times and i get 1 kd in about 10 trys and iam a master defender. Rooting me and hitting me from 65 meters. Iam not whineing mind you even if it seems that way. Iam just tired of the unbalance the cu balance brought in. Give us something that will put our force regen in balance with the mind regen thats going on now, Sorry its late and iam just tired, almost a full temp and I cant take a cm/bh down.


I dont mind pvp at all but this cm crap is so unbalanced its not even funny, its not pvp its just a gank for us just about everytime they come for us unless youhave a pre cu saberand getting hit for 400 plus every shot and Iam doing 150 to 200 max when hes in range.. I dont see cm's running around in pvp tossing dots on everyone its just the bouty missions that we see it. Theres only one way that we can put a stop to this and thats everytime you get a bh on you run. Dont fight, dont trash talk just run. Get a ride out of the starport, stay combatant and find base. This bh crap makes it to the point that I cant enjoy pvp at all. Mind you I dont mind a good fight that I atleast ahve a chance to win, but with the cm's I ahve no chance, No ubber pearls or crystals, yes I ahve a 4th gen saber but thats it and now with the stuff there doing to cloak and the snare situation were screwed literally. Iam jsut venting and iam not looking for the idiots that crank out, learn your temp change your temp and all that other.


I want to be able to play WHAT i want NOt what the fotm isand enjoymyself and as it is I cant. I tried many diffrent temps out and I chose this one because I enjoyed being the healer and helping the group out. I guess ill just sit the vis out and grind my negative out and then finish my temp out.


Tiggs made a statement that there would be less jedi after the CU and she was correct, not because they were makeing it more difficult to get jedi but that they were going to nerf them down to the point of being less then a regualr elite profession, if you havent noticed that EVERY counter we use to a BH the devs put a nerf in to stop us from useing it and its getting old really fast....


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I am a MCM/MBH but surprise i am not goin to flame you I actually agree with you I support your statements in what you had to say my profession does need to be tamed down as it is already overpowered what it is is this I am tired of seeing my profession whine because they want an easy kill and click that win button i want the challenge of killing the jedi but it is of little challenge now due to the devs always gimping the jedi for god sake jedi is supposed top be 1.5 times stronger than me that is what the devs promised now i am asking the devs keep you promise to the jedi and make them truly 1.5 times stronger than an elite profession rather than swing your nerf bat at them


Message Edited by SavantDude on 10-11-2005 06:32 AM


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Keppisuutari
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:47 am
#28


Next step DEV's are planning is to post all jedi-players account informationincluding passwords, visa numbers and RL addresses on these boards. Hey, its the risk we all accepted when we made jedi.



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Wasz
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:56 am
#29

All the disadvantages we have as jedi is exceptable to me. Here is why. We are part of a dying religion. The timeline in being what it is puts us ina weakened state. We have live thru and survive this weakness. If the new expansion shows any real promise it appears that we will get our rewards. However, if not, then we remain in hiding. I have no problem with that. I have alts that can farm what I need to supply my jedi. I live with a supportive guild where we share our resources, rather than pay the exorbitant expenses for CA's and needed loot to keep us viable. Get with the program, or leave. Eventually things will go our way. New players keep coming to SWG, I only see things as getting better. Many who have attained jedi, are not exercising any patience. Yoda would be very disappointed with many. Patience young padawan, patience.




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TheNarcis
Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:05 am
#30






Wasz wrote:

All the disadvantages we have as jedi is exceptable to me. Here is why. We are part of a dying religion. The timeline in being what it is puts us ina weakened state. We have live thru and survive this weakness. If the new expansion shows any real promise it appears that we will get our rewards. However, if not, then we remain in hiding. I have no problem with that. I have alts that can farm what I need to supply my jedi. I live with a supportive guild where we share our resources, rather than pay the exorbitant expenses for CA's and needed loot to keep us viable. Get with the program, or leave. Eventually things will go our way. New players keep coming to SWG, I only see things as getting better. Many who have attained jedi, are not exercising any patience. Yoda would be very disappointed with many. Patience young padawan, patience.





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trifidac
Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:27 am
#31

I don't think the devs want us to escape AT ALL, I guess from then on when TOOW releases that as soon as we see a BH, we're supposed to lie down with our butts high in the sky and end it.

Oh yeah, expect master enhancer to become FOTM soon with stasis having its uses.




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Titan2000
Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:06 am
#32

I love how they make it harder and harder for us



A few days ago I was attacked by a MBH / MCM / something pistols.


Now I've only just come back since I went inactive when the CU came, so my template and saber were unchanged (MLS/Mdef/healer4004 and a 738max damage saber).


Basically, after chasing him while snared for 40 mins, my buffs finally ran out, my force ran out, and i was killed.


Fact was, he could perma-kite me without any trouble, all i could do was saber throw, which he could heal and have plenty of mind regen to keep going.


I had no way at all to catch him (KD - no hope, id KD him and he'd slide 100m and get up further away before i knew where he went). And I lost becuase after 40 mins to healing and infusions/aura/valor and heals, I finally ran out of force.


With these changed they are changing that 40min chase to a quick death.


Thx!



Oh and give snares / roots diminishing returns so they cant be continuously spammed.





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koldbones
Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:13 am
#33






Titan2000 wrote:

I love how they make it harder and harder for us



A few days ago I was attacked by a MBH / MCM / something pistols.


Now I've only just come back since I went inactive when the CU came, so my template and saber were unchanged (MLS/Mdef/healer4004 and a 738max damage saber).


Basically, after chasing him while snared for 40 mins, my buffs finally ran out, my force ran out, and i was killed.


Fact was, he could perma-kite me without any trouble, all i could do was saber throw, which he could heal and have plenty of mind regen to keep going.


I had no way at all to catch him (KD - no hope, id KD him and he'd slide 100m and get up further away before i knew where he went). And I lost becuase after 40 mins to healing and infusions/aura/valor and heals, I finally ran out of force.


With these changed they are changing that 40min chase to a quick death.


Thx!



Oh and give snares / roots diminishing returns so they cant be continuously spammed.






Your post is an example of how its going for everyone. There is no way to beat these guys unless you have a total noob bh. Yes I can see if you have really good pearls, I can see your chance of winning and yes I know jedi that kill BH on my server and my guild, but the majority of them do have pre cu sabers and really nice pearls. This is why I say that we just stop fighting and until the FR nerf comes in just run, get a ride at a starport or stay combatant at all times incase there is a base near by to go into. We have no reason to fight these guys even if loseing xp isnt an issue for you.


Something that is ironic to me is that now the npc missions actually pay them better, the payouts on teh boards are lower then jedi missions but the loot they can sell will make then gobs of cash, a bh friend has made over 2 mill in the last 2 days by selling the npc loot and thats not counting what cash he made off the npc bounty payouts.


trifidac
Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:22 am
#34

I've noticed by watching many CM/BHs fighting even pre-CU Knight/Guardians lately winning EVERY SINGLE one of them because they have gotten an awful lot stronger with the energy layered RIS armor or 8K energy recon, a droid, a double capped FWG5 or Scatter or LD-1 and tons of debuffs to throw on the Jedi- I have yet to see a Jedi win a fight against these BHs. The droids are getting to be a rotten pain in the butt, even in mass PVP they hit you for 100-150 points of damage per second and can never die. Pretty soon the CH pets will replace them droids. They'll get EVEN STRONGER with these silly snare/debuffs changes coming and like I said earlier, master enhancer will be much more desirable with the ability to stasis and run, and you dedicated BHs will have to start getting used to not having anyone fight back.




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Relic_
Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:28 am
#35


Bah thread deleted, what's the point those f*** wits never listen.


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Orthell
Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:29 am
#36



Keppisuutari wrote:
Next step DEV's are planning is to post all jedi-players account information including passwords, visa numbers and RL addresses on these boards. Hey, its the risk we all accepted when we made jedi.





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Zenimij
Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:24 am
#37



trifidac wrote:
I've noticed by watching many CM/BHs fighting even pre-CU Knight/Guardians lately winning EVERY SINGLE one of them because they have gotten an awful lot stronger with the energy layered RIS armor or 8K energy recon, a droid, a double capped FWG5 or Scatter or LD-1 and tons of debuffs to throw on the Jedi- I have yet to see a Jedi win a fight against these BHs. The droids are getting to be a rotten pain in the butt, even in mass PVP they hit you for 100-150 points of damage per second and can never die. Pretty soon the CH pets will replace them droids. They'll get EVEN STRONGER with these silly snare/debuffs changes coming and like I said earlier, master enhancer will be much more desirable with the ability to stasis and run, and you dedicated BHs will have to start getting used to not having anyone fight back.




They might as well allow people to program droids/creatures to attack their owner to break stasis while they're at it.



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Maxil
Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:29 am
#38

every templete has a counter, and to MCM's it is SAP. It works really nicely, and with the upcoming changes (increased healing costs, as well as increased costs for applying the DOTS) They shouldn't last too long, already sap hurts 'em pretty hard.. My longest fight with a mcm is two hours, tho commonly it's about 20-30 minutes, that's the time needed to wear 'em down. Since I got sap, it's gone down to about 10-15.



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JordonUK
Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:31 am
#39

I don't want to spend 2 hours fighting a MCM?




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