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Thread: How am I ment to escape a BH now?

TheNarcis
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:46 am
#14






Grunzer wrote:

Well, they can't stop you from not playing. then where the BH's be eh? They'll have 0 content won't they. What will they **edit** about then? "DEVS! THERE ARE NO JEDI TO HUNT! MAKE THEM LOG ON SO WE CAN KILL THEM!!!!" hehe.








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gordan24
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:57 am
#15

cant ...check this link....lol we are screwed <-----think we was already...culd be wrong tho....








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TheNarcis
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:57 am
#16






WookieOgre wrote:

I showed my displeasure with this nerf on the Beta forums when it was announced. To think Helios (a dev)just a week prior defending the Cloak nerf stated "Cloak was never intended as an escape tactic, I suggest when this change happens you Burst Run or Force run if you want to escape".


A week later we get "Force run and Burst run are cancelled out by debuffs", which means the devs want to give Ranged professions the ability to keep a melee player kited indefinitely. So FR or BurstRunis an escape tactic only when you are fighting a melee player? To think my novice Rifleman Snare can cancel out ForceRun 3 just makes me sick.






This makes me so darn angry.




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Niccolado
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:58 am
#17



JordonUK wrote:
Upcoming nerfs

Taking away FR is so retarded, am I ment to just suppresin and wave and hope that I can get away? How do you expect me to fight when they can just heal from my **edit**ty saber? Might as well cancle the pre order.

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You are not supposed to escape the BHs mate! You are supposed to lie down and die, so the BH can get his money.

They are now even looking into ways for us to get killed while staying inside private houses too, according to the new BH correspondent.

Sometimes I wonder why SOE dont just remove jedi, and let it be. But I guess its because The BHs would complain about it, since they got nothing to kill and earn 220k.




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tamer_bourne
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:07 am
#18

Big lol at this thread, BHs are not hard to kill and snares are supposed to do just that. Why have a special that won't work or do anything on most jedi? Specially now that jedi is so common. It needs a timer though.


I don't have a uber saber and BHs don't usually stand a chance, try to learn how to play, who knows maybe you can do it.





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TheNarcis
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:09 am
#19






tamer_bourne wrote:

Big lol at this thread, BHs are not hard to kill and snares are supposed to do just that. Why have a special that won't work or do anything on most jedi? Specially now that jedi is so common. It needs a timer though.


I don't have a uber saber and BHs don't usually stand a chance, try to learn how to play, who knows maybe you can do it.








Oh l33t gawd of the "I win" button, share us your divine secrets?!


I might add, mighty helpful you are to the Jedi community, instead of providing insight to fellow Jedi, you straight out laugh and bash others to your uberness.


Message Edited by TheNarcis on 10-11-2005 08:11 AM



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WookieOgre
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:17 am
#20






tamer_bourne wrote:

Big lol at this thread, BHs are not hard to kill and snares are supposed to do just that. Why have a special that won't work or do anything on most jedi? Specially now that jedi is so common. It needs a timer though.


I don't have a uber saber and BHs don't usually stand a chance, try to learn how to play, who knows maybe you can do it.








A novice Rifleman Snare that can be stacked is supposed to Cancel ForceRun 3....a Master level ability!


What you fail to grasp is balance, Snares did exactly what they were supposed to....limit movement speed. Force Run and Burst run did exactly what they were supposed to, increase movement speed. If both movement speeds were equal the player was walking, if FR3 vs a snare it should NOT cancel because it's a higher movment buff. That is BALANCE.


Tell me what is the point of an escapeskill that can be removed permanetly by stacking snares/mez/root?


I understood the need for Root (although I think it needed a timer like mez) but to have Snares now bascially remove your movement buff....devs have been listening to dam Carebear BH's that want their marks handed to them on a silver platter.
mort666
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:18 am
#21

Your not, your supposed to die and cancel your account.



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Ebiawo
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:23 am
#22

ever made a npc bh mission ? sure dumb question ... for me it looks like the dev's want that we can do the same amount of specials as the npcdo (now)... stand in one place until th bh killed you without any defense / counterattack


it would be easier if the would replace the BH TEF with stasis that dont break at attack





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Cabenef
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:27 am
#23

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SavantDude
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:31 am
#24




Just had a run in with a cm just a few minutes ago and it makes me sick. My temp is mheal mdef saber 0304, havent got the last row in 2h. Its pathetic how they can heal and heal and heal and there insane mind regen. I can take his damage all day long and short of lag the wont out right kill me. Its the damn force regen, Iam running around watching my force bar go down and watching there mind regen totally. They should make mind regen on have the same regen rate as force and then lets see how it goes. It takes no skill to run a person around until they run out of force. This one today went through 2 full spice runs and kept comeing. Iam tired of it. Tired of the unending nerfs to us and the lifting of the bh. They kd me 8 out of 10 times and i get 1 kd in about 10 trys and iam a master defender. Rooting me and hitting me from 65 meters. Iam not whineing mind you even if it seems that way. Iam just tired of the unbalance the cu balance brought in. Give us something that will put our force regen in balance with the mind regen thats going on now, Sorry its late and iam just tired, almost a full temp and I cant take a cm/bh down.


I dont mind pvp at all but this cm crap is so unbalanced its not even funny, its not pvp its just a gank for us just about everytime they come for us unless youhave a pre cu saberand getting hit for 400 plus every shot and Iam doing 150 to 200 max when hes in range.. I dont see cm's running around in pvp tossing dots on everyone its just the bouty missions that we see it. Theres only one way that we can put a stop to this and thats everytime you get a bh on you run. Dont fight, dont trash talk just run. Get a ride out of the starport, stay combatant and find base. This bh crap makes it to the point that I cant enjoy pvp at all. Mind you I dont mind a good fight that I atleast ahve a chance to win, but with the cm's I ahve no chance, No ubber pearls or crystals, yes I ahve a 4th gen saber but thats it and now with the stuff there doing to cloak and the snare situation were screwed literally. Iam jsut venting and iam not looking for the idiots that crank out, learn your temp change your temp and all that other.


I want to be able to play WHAT i want NOt what the fotm isand enjoymyself and as it is I cant. I tried many diffrent temps out and I chose this one because I enjoyed being the healer and helping the group out. I guess ill just sit the vis out and grind my negative out and then finish my temp out.


Tiggs made a statement that there would be less jedi after the CU and she was correct, not because they were makeing it more difficult to get jedi but that they were going to nerf them down to the point of being less then a regualr elite profession, if you havent noticed that EVERY counter we use to a BH the devs put a nerf in to stop us from useing it and its getting old really fast....


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I am a MCM/MBH but surprise i am not goin to flame you I actually agree with you I support your statements in what you had to say my profession does need to be tamed down as it is already overpowered what it is is this I am tired of seeing my profession whine because they want an easy kill and click that win button i want the challenge of killing the jedi but it is of little challenge now due to the devs always gimping the jedi for god sake jedi is supposed top be 1.5 times stronger than me that is what the devs promised now i am asking the devs keep you promise to the jedi and make them truly 1.5 times stronger than an elite profession rather than swing your nerf bat at them


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Dlek_Krego
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:34 am
#25






tamer_bourne wrote:

Big lol at this thread, BHs are not hard to kill and snares are supposed to do just that. Why have a special that won't work or do anything on most jedi? Specially now that jedi is so common. It needs a timer though.


I don't have a uber saber and BHs don't usually stand a chance, try to learn how to play, who knows maybe you can do it.







and so it starts...here come the "1337-doodz" to flame ya for suckin so bad....... SO damn predictable.





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EfreaK
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:36 am
#26


Copying myself






Btw...this is much worse then "just" perma snare.

It's much deeper.


1) Any Debuff will cancel ANY buff.
(Doc speed buffs, force speed. A Thyroid Rupture and you're permanently -40 combat speed)

(Brandy with +200 Action Regen. A Hemmorage nullifies it, and you only got Action Debuff etc.)


2) Think this affects only Jedi?
Nope, this hits all Melee classes.


With that many being affected, I doubt it'll survive to go live.








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