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Thread: THE LEAD SOE DEV PLAYS A BH

Ajc1833
Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:30 pm
#27

Glad to see bounty hunters jumping in to prove that fact that started this thread , and as for wether or not youve played 12 mmo's so what many of us including i have also. whoopee makes us all experts and i know of several whio dont let the emplyees play.... hell read teh fine print on soe's rules employeess who even mention that they are devs, csrs or ever were mention it in game while playing can be punished...sorry if you feel you have to be hostile to folks whom you dont even know, but im soo glad you seem to knwo what experiance and knoledge i may have, i gues your psychic? or just an inflamatory , ranter? A shame to see folks attck peple they dotn really know, adn call them lairs. Also i coudl care less about this thread or how logn it goes , i was just makign a statement, after all thats what forums are for... free country i live in ... not sure about yours...



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Implementor
Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:32 pm
#28






WinkerPeeper wrote:





WookieOgre wrote:


Yes but he had a good explanation for this.


He said he is like a plumber. The real bosses say put the toilet in the living room, well even if it's against all common sense/judgement they do it anyways. Point being they think some of the changes are wrong but they have to do it anyways because they are not incharge.


I firmly believe dumb and dumber run this department....it's the only explaination.







Unfortunately, Blixtev is not telling the exact truth.


This is the developer who was playing his BH one weekend, decided the NPC marks were rather boring and so, the same weekend, devised, programmed and implemented the system of High Level/Loot Dropping NPC marks. He did that in two days. Either he got approval over the phone or by email or, as seems more likely, he had the authority to do it himself.


And we can't get a Dev tomake Grand Kraytsdrop pearls.








i've seen this referred to a couple times on a couple dif. forums


is this really true?


if it is, it's a freakin' sad statement on the overall development of the game: jedi, balance, loots, combat, content, bug-fixes etc etc





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Court-Jester
Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:46 pm
#29






dnavoy wrote:






KenjiYoshioka wrote:

True story.


Why do you think things are the way they are?


/rude SOE





wasn't aware that the devs are limited to playing a certain profession or that they were unable to play others....maybe things are the way they are because this forum is littered with whiney nerf this and nerf that posts from its own profession.





I like to think its because the collective iq never reaches above 20 in here. But you're probably right.



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DocSavag
Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:51 pm
#30



Tanks wrote:


Ajc1833 wrote:
Seems to me that having swg devs or csrs playin teh game is a conflict of intrest, totally killing any real objectivity in the creation, fix and cust service dept.... many other games willnot allow devs, coders or csr types to play adn donot have this issue..... lets not forget folks we pay to be here and play , we do havea voice wether or not they want to acknoledge it.... stop playing there game and lets start playin ours..the real issue here is shoudl devs and csr be allowed to play at all.... since obviously they can not retain objectivity..


This is the most illogical (and I am being nice )post I have ever read. We want the devs to play the game so they can experience the real live server issues. As a matter of fact a number of issues were resolved while devs were playing on live servers as they did not encounter some of the problems under test conditions.
I don't know about other games, but I know for a fact that Blizzard employees play their games on their spare time. They are encouraged by their company so they get a number of free accounts for it.





Sheesh I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've agreed with Tanks about anything and this has to be one of them.

The forums are full of griping that the devs don't play the game (which isn't even true) and now someone thinks they shouldn't play at all? That is just silly.



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SlaserX
Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:55 pm
#31






Tanks wrote:





KenjiYoshioka wrote:

True story.


Why do you think things are the way they are?


/rude SOE





The same dev also grinded a Jedi Guardian pre-Pub 9, and a full template Jedi post Pub 9 on his personal accounts. So, he knows both sides.






*cough*pre-cu*cough*


Sorry... I need a throat losenge.





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delanstarrunner
Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:00 pm
#32






Ajc1833 wrote:

Seems to me that having swg devs or csrs playin teh game is a conflict of intrest, totally killing any real objectivity in the creation, fix and cust service dept.... many other games willnot allow devs, coders or csr types to play adn donot have this issue..... lets not forget folks we pay to be here and play , we do havea voice wether or not they want to acknoledge it.... stop playing there game and lets start playin ours..the real issue here is shoudl devs and csr be allowed to play at all.... since obviously they can not retain objectivity..




What!? Yeah, we want DEVs and CSRs that play WOW or EQ instead SWG. You might want to rethink that position. I would notbuy anything from someone that spent their money on a competitor's goods.



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Morwen
Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:02 pm
#33






Tanks wrote:

Well, I know both sides too.

Back In The Day

No, Dancer is does not fit my play style.







Was that your first day out grinding after unlocking?

DocSavag
Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:04 pm
#34



delanstarrunner wrote:


Ajc1833 wrote:
Seems to me that having swg devs or csrs playin teh game is a conflict of intrest, totally killing any real objectivity in the creation, fix and cust service dept.... many other games willnot allow devs, coders or csr types to play adn donot have this issue..... lets not forget folks we pay to be here and play , we do havea voice wether or not they want to acknoledge it.... stop playing there game and lets start playin ours..the real issue here is shoudl devs and csr be allowed to play at all.... since obviously they can not retain objectivity..


What!? Yeah, we want DEVs and CSRs that play WOW or EQ instead SWG. You might want to rethink that position. I would notbuy anything from someone that spent their money on a competitor's goods.





Actually you want a team that plays them all just like many of us. A lot of them do because they are gamers too..imagine that..



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delanstarrunner
Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:09 pm
#35






DocSavag wrote:





delanstarrunner wrote:





Ajc1833 wrote:

Seems to me that having swg devs or csrs playin teh game is a conflict of intrest, totally killing any real objectivity in the creation, fix and cust service dept.... many other games willnot allow devs, coders or csr types to play adn donot have this issue..... lets not forget folks we pay to be here and play , we do havea voice wether or not they want to acknoledge it.... stop playing there game and lets start playin ours..the real issue here is shoudl devs and csr be allowed to play at all.... since obviously they can not retain objectivity..




What!? Yeah, we want DEVs and CSRs that play WOW or EQ instead SWG. You might want to rethink that position. I would notbuy anything from someone that spent their money on a competitor's goods.







Actually you want a team that plays them all just like many of us. A lot of them do because they are gamers too..imagine that..




Hehe, yeah . . . in reading whatI wrote it didn't come off as intended. I meant if they played another game and not SWG at all.



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felipz
Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:20 pm
#36






WinkerPeeper wrote:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bounty_hunter&message.id=483605&query.id=0#M483605





Just look at that and tell me they are not dumb. How many people have a jedi? How many play to have a bounty hunter (not counting your jedi alt)? More happypeople = more people happy / playing the game / more money.



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Geral_Corasjo
Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:46 pm
#37



KenjiYoshioka wrote:
True story.
Why do you think things are the way they are?
/rude SOE








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majorglory
Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:48 pm
#38






Tanks wrote:




MsNiL wrote:
Ofcourse he prefers to play a BH. Who wouldnt?

I heard you became a Dancerafter jumping the coro post though. How's that?





Well, I know both sides too.

Back In The Day

No, Dancer is does not fit my play style.








That is why Tanks was a good Coro. I even admired him. Good Man.
DocSavag
Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:48 pm
#39



delanstarrunner wrote:


DocSavag wrote:


delanstarrunner wrote:


Ajc1833 wrote:
Seems to me that having swg devs or csrs playin teh game is a conflict of intrest, totally killing any real objectivity in the creation, fix and cust service dept.... many other games willnot allow devs, coders or csr types to play adn donot have this issue..... lets not forget folks we pay to be here and play , we do havea voice wether or not they want to acknoledge it.... stop playing there game and lets start playin ours..the real issue here is shoudl devs and csr be allowed to play at all.... since obviously they can not retain objectivity..


What!? Yeah, we want DEVs and CSRs that play WOW or EQ instead SWG. You might want to rethink that position. I would notbuy anything from someone that spent their money on a competitor's goods.





Actually you want a team that plays them all just like many of us. A lot of them do because they are gamers too..imagine that..


Hehe, yeah . . . in reading whatI wrote it didn't come off as intended. I meant if they played another game and not SWG at all.





Yea I agree if they were gamers playing other games but didn't play their own at all I would worry



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