Jedi Archive

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Amsterdoominator wrote:

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ValinCalred wrote:
breach doesn't strip ai

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And choke is unstoppable, force shield only works against lightning

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Try choking someone with Force feedback ^^

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GuessWho17 wrote:

1) Duels>

2) Mass PvP>

3) Bounty Hunters>

What about 4) High end PvE such as Gorax, Krayts, DWB or the Corvette?
I'd really appreciate someone filling in here, since I'm still only grinding my template. Thanks in advance.

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Windrider01 wrote:

"Only force buff that it doesn'tremove is Avoid Incap that's a fact. " <---wishfull thinking it's pure fiction

force speed and force run cann't be removed either. But just for you I'll test it again on an enhancer.

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Eurus Windrider

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Haha then I must really have deactivated force speed really often in my duel against a MPowers jedi yesterday cause I kept missing it.

In other words, breach does strip force speed.

Message Edited by Windrider01 on 09-25-2005 04:12 AM

Also wanted to add about force shield and choke. It only protects against choke if it was activated before the first hit. i.e you use choke and the opponent had force shield - it will reduce the ticks damage from now on even if you breach it after the first hit.

If you hit choke and the opponent didn't have force shield on it will tick for the actual damage no matter even if the opponent activates force sheild after the first hit.

Message Edited by felipz on 09-25-2005 07:22 AM

The fact that many ppl seems to be missing is that powers is not good alone. Add some lightsaper skills with master powers and you have a killing machine. I'm master powers, ls 0400, enh 4404, heal 4000 and novice def and I'm doing really well agains any opponent I have fought against. And I do PvP alot and I try to learn new tricks agains different opponents everytime I fight. I have been dueling hours and hours agains jedi guildies so I know thing or two. Defender is almost useless in PvP if you are not master with AI. Most of the best PvPers in our server has actually droped defender and taked mls/menh/heal 4040 template.

I just logged on and tested it against force speed and force run. And i stand corrected, I must have been missing w/ breach a hell of a lot or they reapplied it right afterward.

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Eurus Windrider

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Windrider01 wrote:

I just logged on and tested it against force speed and force run. And i stand corrected, I must have been missing w/ breach a hell of a lot or they reapplied it right afterward.

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There is something called combat log, everything you do is there. And no only thing that cannot be breached is Avoid Incap you need to do run better tests.

I said "i stand corrected"; meaning yes it does remove these buffs.

My dislike of breach is that it misses a lot and all buffs can easily be reaplyed.How muchgoodis it to take out Aura that only lasts for 45 seconds anyhow?

If you're up against force feedback then you have to keep breaching till its down otherwise you kill yourself if you attack. I would challenge any master powers to go head to head w/ 0404 enh and then tell me master powers is great for jedi duels.

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Eurus Windrider

Message Edited by Windrider01 on 09-25-2005 05:21 AM

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Windrider01 wrote:

I said "i stand corrected"; meaning yes it does remove these buffs.

My dislike of breach is that it misses a lot and all buffs can easily be reaplyed.How muchgoodis it to take out Aura that only lasts for 45 seconds anyhow?

If you're up against force feedback then you have to keep breaching till its down otherwise you kill yourself if you attack. I would challenge any master powers to go head to head w/ 0404 enh and still think you're going to win that fight.

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Eurus Windrider

Message Edited by Windrider01 on 09-25-200505:19 AM

Message Edited by Windrider01 on 09-25-2005 05:19 AM

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Apology accepted regarding your insult.

There was no insult to apologize for. I still think breach is relatively useless; the fact that it takes out 2 more buffs than i thought doesn't change its hit ratio or the fc/action cost of using it or the ease of reapplying the buffs.

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Eurus Windrider

saying breech is useless. yes you might remove infusion or aura (who cares 50 second macros and its back) but if you remove say shield than that jedi (assuming they are paying super attention to their buffs (which most dont) than thats 3-4 seconds you wont be taking damage. Most it takes 10 seconds or so. And to say its useless in pvp you havent pvped with a good group. Removing armor/shield/ even arua in a pvp group attacking one guy (as most good groups do) only makes that guy die much faster reducing the number of damage dealers the other side has.

I'm not saying breech is uber at all. It does such when you dont remove anything. but used at the correct times and can win the fight. And seeing as how most people use foods im usually not owrried about action. If your running out you need better food/ id unno i just dont run outta action.