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Blacknights
Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:11 am
#27
I too would love too see more positive posting like it used to be way back when. For the love of the game
abbink wrote:
fouchin wrote:
balock_the_zabrak wrote:
Unfortunatly whining is inevitable. We all pay for this game. I am a bounty hunter and all I see on either Jedi or BH forums are a few types of posts the Solution to the bh vs. jedi relationship (which has spawned some really stupid solutions might I add), the I hate bhs/I hate Jedi posts, The Lets stop the arguing posts, and the wahhhhhh Jedi are too powerful/bhs (sometimes MBH/MCMs) are too powerful). The funniest thing is we happen to get the most attention and yet we complain the most. Look at the smugglers forum and see what they think when publishes involve either jedi or bhs. You should see how mad they are. I say leave it for now and fix it later. There is a reason we choose our professions, I chose bh cause of it's content. Our NPC missions only have better loot, they are not better content. Jedi is basically endgame for a lot of people. Now for me I don't think I will ever have an endgame cause I take my time retooling my template to serve me better. The thing about bhs is a lot of them have to understand that we are not population control. If we were population control then there would be the possibility of stopping the numbers of jedi, now we know that isn't so. BHs also have to remember that a jedi who is cloaking or doing something like running, is not necessarily a newb or a baby, but someone trying not to die. Jedi on the other hand, have to remember that their templates vary and with that so does the effect of a particular bh template. I see the nerf posts all the time and I see jedi saying that say mbh/mcm is too powerful and then I see the jedi that says you guys are foolish just learn your template. I hope the FRS allows for some jedi to gain power, that way there is more diversity besides just paddy and full temp. I don't think that either side of this little conflict should get an I win button. I don't think bh needs any more added (although some stuff from the movies is really cool) and I don't really feel jedi needs much of a fix. I do feel people need to start treating the rest of the community with respect and we should step back and stop the complaining and allow other groups to be heard. Let the smuggler have his/her day. Or one of the other overlooked professions. It's time to understand that our 15 bucks a month is not worth more than anyone elses.
agree, that is why the system should be completely "turned off". with this evil step child out of the way time and effort can be made to give all those other professions in the game some very much needed love (i.e. poor smugglers ). if you have a wicked splinter in your palm yet your floor needs to be clearned really bad, you take out the splinter so that you can clean the floor well, not leave the splinter and do a half azz job on the floor.
turn it off or continue dealing with a half azz game with hate and complaining from all directions cause the devs spent too much time trying to keep all the jedi and bounty hunters happy..
it seems to be the only truely fair solution right now...otherwise both professions will be nerfed to uselessness and nothingness. End the strife now. Fix the over all game problems then revist it this option later or maybe never. Perhaps then the posts in these forums will be constructive and positive again. Out of all the awesome ideas ive read it appears to be the only real solution. Dont flame me too hard for saying that. Its just one man's oppinion...lol
Message Edited by abbink on 09-13-2005 11:10 AM
Message Edited by Blacknights on 09-13-2005 01:12 PM
abbink
Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:28 am
#28
Blacknights wrote:
I too would love too see more positive posting like it used to be way back when. For the love of the game
abbink wrote:
fouchin wrote:
balock_the_zabrak wrote:Unfortunatly whining is inevitable. We all pay for this game. I am a bounty hunter and all I see on either Jedi or BH forums are a few types of posts the Solution to the bh vs. jedi relationship (which has spawned some really stupid solutions might I add), the I hate bhs/I hate Jedi posts, The Lets stop the arguing posts, and the wahhhhhh Jedi are too powerful/bhs (sometimes MBH/MCMs) are too powerful). The funniest thing is we happen to get the most attention and yet we complain the most. Look at the smugglers forum and see what they think when publishes involve either jedi or bhs. You should see how mad they are. I say leave it for now and fix it later. There is a reason we choose our professions, I chose bh cause of it's content. Our NPC missions only have better loot, they are not better content. Jedi is basically endgame for a lot of people. Now for me I don't think I will ever have an endgame cause I take my time retooling my template to serve me better. The thing about bhs is a lot of them have to understand that we are not population control. If we were population control then there would be the possibility of stopping the numbers of jedi, now we know that isn't so. BHs also have to remember that a jedi who is cloaking or doing something like running, is not necessarily a newb or a baby, but someone trying not to die. Jedi on the other hand, have to remember that their templates vary and with that so does the effect of a particular bh template. I see the nerf posts all the time and I see jedi saying that say mbh/mcm is too powerful and then I see the jedi that says you guys are foolish just learn your template. I hope the FRS allows for some jedi to gain power, that way there is more diversity besides just paddy and full temp. I don't think that either side of this little conflict should get an I win button. I don't think bh needs any more added (although some stuff from the movies is really cool) and I don't really feel jedi needs much of a fix. I do feel people need to start treating the rest of the community with respect and we should step back and stop the complaining and allow other groups to be heard. Let the smuggler have his/her day. Or one of the other overlooked professions. It's time to understand that our 15 bucks a month is not worth more than anyone elses.
agree, that is why the system should be completely "turned off". with this evil step child out of the way time and effort can be made to give all those other professions in the game some very much needed love (i.e. poor smugglers ). if you have a wicked splinter in your palm yet your floor needs to be clearned really bad, you take out the splinter so that you can clean the floor well, not leave the splinter and do a half azz job on the floor.turn it off or continue dealing with a half azz game with hate and complaining from all directions cause the devs spent too much time trying to keep all the jedi and bounty hunters happy..
it seems to be the only truely fair solution right now...otherwise both professions will be nerfed to uselessness and nothingness. End the strife now. Fix the over all game problems then revist it this option later or maybe never. Perhaps then the posts in these forums will be constructive and positive again. Out of all the awesome ideas ive read it appears to be the only real solution. Dont flame me too hard for saying that. Its just one man's oppinion...lolMessage Edited by abbink on 09-13-2005 11:10 AM
Message Edited by Blacknights on 09-13-2005 01:12 PM
There it is the new motto for this post. Thanks blacknights. "For the love of the game" let us end the hate once and for all be being rid of the whole PVP between Jedi and BH. Scrap it for the time being or forever if it turns out to be the best solution.
balock_the_zabrak
Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:53 am
#29
See my point was while I too feel that doing so will help ease the tension, some people will still complain because they liked either being hunted or hunting. So now while we are trying to fix some players' experience, we find that other players lose theirs. Some people all they do is hunt. Some jedi really look forward to being hunted. It can be an endgame for some. Maybe they should find another end game. Either way complainers will persist. Now it will be "I hate jedi for getting Player missions taken away" on the bounty forums and some jedi will say "bhs weren't that tough". Personally I like the hunt a lot and it is exciting, but if SOE takes it away then who knows when it will return. Once it's gone people will want it back too.
Cyclonus-
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:01 pm
#30
I say leave it alone (although making jedi heals a tad better or cm/doc heals a tad weaker would pwn).
abbink
Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:04 am
#31
uhhhhh wrote:
warmaster_670 wrote:
if they took it out, even for a while then there would be NO disadvantage to being a jedi, which would mean jedi nerf, or reinstating of pve/pvp exp loss
when they balanced the system and made us equal they took away the argument for being rare. IMO Jedi need to be ultimate powerful to justify the insane retard grind or just make it so XP = the same as any other proffesion, allowing a much faster grind.Equal Template should equal the grindUltimate Template should equal insane grind.The old system was Better, BH's shouldnt no way no how take on a full templated Jedi and win, unless that BH had ultimate skill. It would of been better to take names off the terminal, but give a BH group the abilty to hunt 1 Jedi. (for example when a BH leads the group that group can all have same mission and tef.I prefer to scrap it myself, alot of the Nerfs hitting Jedi is coming from BH's whining over and over.
Thats just it. No matter what ideas people have and no matter how awesome those ideas are people will find ways to rebuttle it and then flaming and trash talk will happen. "Jedi should be Ultimate to fight bounty hunters" "No way no how Jedi should be the same as any profession" "quit whining your are a jedi thats what you signed up for when you unlocked" "you quit whining you just want a win button and thats not what i signed up for when i grinded jedi" and so on and so on and so on. LOL its never ending. It causes soo much strife and contention. IT just needs to be scrapped...lol no other way would truely be fair...atleast thats what i think
abbink
Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:11 am
#32
balock_the_zabrak wrote:
See my point was while I too feel that doing so will help ease the tension, some people will still complain because they liked either being hunted or hunting. So now while we are trying to fix some players' experience, we find that other players lose theirs. Some people all they do is hunt. Some jedi really look forward to being hunted. It can be an endgame for some. Maybe they should find another end game. Either way complainers will persist. Now it will be "I hate jedi for getting Player missions taken away" on the bounty forums and some jedi will say "bhs weren't that tough". Personally I like the hunt a lot and it is exciting, but if SOE takes it away then who knows when it will return. Once it's gone people will want it back too.
true just like post cu...lots of peeps wants it back...lol. I think it will ease alot more tension than it causes. Contension will still exist but maybe hopefully not enough. SOE should have never introduced it in the first place. Had they not we would not be caring on such discussion. But with all things hind sight is 20/20 nothing you can do about it now but try and fix it. I still say scrap it completely. But to appease this valid argument leave an option for jedi that want to sign up to get hunted go to the terminals and post their names...lol. Then the bh can hunt and the jedi that want can be hunted. Of course there are arguments to refute what i just said too. there is no way to win here...lol
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