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Thread: Is Force Valor worth it?

yobip
Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:53 am
#27

its very nice, especially with master sabers. frs will include more saber block it appears. so if it comes back, then itll b even better.



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Kal_Choedan
Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:55 am
#28

Totaly worth it , and with Publish 24 totaly necassary MD or 4044 for the win im afraid folks



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LinkyTriforce
Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:28 am
#29






Antaro wrote:

I heard that Force Valor is really effective in helping block ranged attacks, however my question is in regards to the DMG reduction it is claimed to have. What kind of damage reduction is this? I have seen the dmg reduction of skills like FR2 and FR3 and if the reduction is anywhere close to those - then Valor in my opinion would not be worth it.


If the dmg reduction is huge, when strategically should you use Valor?


Thanks.





Then YOU are bugged because I hit the same with it as I do without it and I just tried..same damage
mero909
Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:37 am
#30

Valor is perfect! I was involved in a group PvP action and had valor on (I'm a MDef) and was blocking shots from about 5 ranged guys and handling myself very effectively with very little healing needed.




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WookieOgre
Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:59 am
#31

be very careful. Devs might one day "fix" the fact there is no damage reduction with Valor up.
Slylandro
Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:32 am
#32

Im def 4440, plz elaboratemore why 4044 is a better option.
Antaro
Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:42 am
#33






Slylandro wrote:

Im def 4440, plz elaboratemore why 4044 is a better option.





from what I have read so far in this post alone, is that the ranged defense you get from Def 0400 is not worth much, as well the innate armor accounts from some - but also not a whole lot. People are saying that Improved Valor actually offers a noticeably substantial amount of protection from ranged attacks. From what I have read so far it is like the Force Aura of ranged attacks.


Either way - based on what everyone has said so far, I have decided to simply go Mdef and try it out. I already have Def 4443 now.


KenzoDarkron
Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:45 am
#34



Slylandro wrote:
Im def 4440, plz elaboratemore why 4044 is a better option.




Because people have pointed out that the ranged defense tree is not working except for the innate armor. The block in valor works quite well.



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Treshhead
Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:56 am
#35

About the think "Valor worth it?"

It absolutly is - im MDef and only can say Valor is useful in mass-PvP as it is in BH Fights (as long as they root/snare you and you are ranged)
With Valor, Aura, Infusion and some Pikatta Pie you are almost untouched by a ranged PC/NPC. If you are getting hit infusion takes care of. And about the forcecost - since i dont have channel in my temp i used to just popp a Holo after about 10-15minutes just standing there watching them trying to hit me. Last BH that tried to kill me ranged gave up on this since i just /laughed at him. If the roumors are right and you can even increase your MLS/valor block by vayerbock for +25 you will be untouched like a virgin if they try to kill you ranged.
Thats exactly why Def 4044 is way bedder then 4440 - my opinion



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LinkyTriforce
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:29 pm
#36

Valor 1 has damage reduction, but valor 2 does not
Antaro
Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:02 am
#37






Treshhead wrote:
About the think "Valor worth it?"

It absolutly is - im MDef and only can say Valor is useful in mass-PvP as it is in BH Fights (as long as they root/snare you and you are ranged)
With Valor, Aura, Infusion and some Pikatta Pie you are almost untouched by a ranged PC/NPC. If you are getting hit infusion takes care of. And about the forcecost - since i dont have channel in my temp i used to just popp a Holo after about 10-15minutes just standing there watching them trying to hit me. Last BH that tried to kill me ranged gave up on this since i just /laughed at him. If the roumors are right and you can even increase your MLS/valor block by vayerbock for +25 you will be untouched like a virgin if they try to kill you ranged.
Thats exactly why Def 4044 is way bedder then 4440 - my opinion




Nice reply ... made me laugh. I can't wait til I get to sit and laugh at a bh while he is running around tryin to kite and attack me...LOL.
Treshhead
Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:12 am
#38



Antaro wrote:


Treshhead wrote:
About the think "Valor worth it?"

It absolutly is - im MDef and only can say Valor is useful in mass-PvP as it is in BH Fights (as long as they root/snare you and you are ranged)
With Valor, Aura, Infusion and some Pikatta Pie you are almost untouched by a ranged PC/NPC. If you are getting hit infusion takes care of. And about the forcecost - since i dont have channel in my temp i used to just popp a Holo after about 10-15minutes just standing there watching them trying to hit me. Last BH that tried to kill me ranged gave up on this since i just /laughed at him. If the roumors are right and you can even increase your MLS/valor block by vayerbock for +25 you will be untouched like a virgin if they try to kill you ranged.
Thats exactly why Def 4044 is way bedder then 4440 - my opinion


Nice reply ... made me laugh. I can't wait til I get to sit and laugh at a bh while he is running around tryin to kite and attack me...LOL.





Absolutly worth a /laugh - but beware - if too many will do this to the poor BH-Community they will start whining again to the devs to nerf valor.
Maybe they add Snare and damage reduction to it
I wouldnt care as long as the block remains



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The heart is the crystal of the Jedi
The Jedi is the crystal of the Force.
The Force is the blade of the heart.
All are intertwined
The crystal, The blade,The Jedi
You are one.

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