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Thread: Jedi Respec

Excalibur_CE
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:23 pm
#27

Another respec.... just what we need.... that way all the people that went from 1 novice box to full/almost full template in3 weeks by grinding tier 1 boxes and respecing it up can gain more boxes with very little xp...




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trojanman666
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:24 pm
#28

The changes are not small they just pulled a 360 on jedi and how do we know this is not going to happen agine?
Leanardo
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:29 pm
#29





Leanardo wrote:

your right they didnt say token was the last. the one BEFORE it they did though. A message like "WARNING THIS IS YOUR LAST AND FINAL RESPEC" came up. In the paragraph it said something like After this respec your characters template will be permanent and cannot be altered by csr, respec, etc; only by natural game play.


Leo






Yea but I think that the "final respec" that we got was a completely different system from the "token respec", so it would be the "final respec" of that system. Your thoughts?




I see what you mean, The "last" respec was for those who were cheated out of there actual "last' respec because the warnings we were supposed to get did not occur. The "token" respec is kind of like a vet reward if you will. It can be used at any time and it was a gift from SOE to us for sticking with the cu. I just feel that the respec needs to end otherwise people will get all the novices (jedi and non-jedi) a few days before our "monthly" or "weekly' respec and then put them into a tier 3 or 4. I would gladly accept a tier=tier respec system if we had them after every big publish.Not sure how they would do it with a hybrid tier and an elite tier though. This current respec system is just too exploitable and it is the main reason we have 60 padawans in theed bored as can be with no frs. It just created a bigger bottleneck.



Leo
cryptichail
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:30 pm
#30






Leanardo wrote:

your right they didnt say token was the last. the one BEFORE it they did though. A message like "WARNING THIS IS YOUR LAST AND FINAL RESPEC" came up. In the paragraph it said something like After this respec your characters template will be permanent and cannot be altered by csr, respec, etc; only by natural game play.


Leo






Not everyone got that message, some logged in to find out their time was up without ever getting a notice. I didn't need a last respec then, but I never got that message, I logged in and got my profession badges. The token respec was put in because of this bug, some people got stuck with a template they didn't want.


They keep changing so many things about so many professions, that the least they can do is give a respec (2-3 days of them) for us to test it out once professions get nerfed or upgraded with a publish.


What about those that got sick and tired of waiting for a smuggler fix and respec out of it. Now they come along and fix it. shouldn't they get a chance to go back.


And say you were smart and didn't use your token respec. Now with pub 19 you use it to change your Jedi template, so it's gone. Next publish they fix some other Jedi skills and nerf others, now you're stuck with what you got. (well not stuck, but now you have to re-grind what you want out, and depending on what that is, could take a long ass time).


In the end, this is just a game, one that we pay to play. So whenever they make drastic changes to the way it is played, they should at least allow us to respec into something we will have fun in playing. Just MO, but oh well.


Message Edited by cryptichail on 06-22-2005 11:37 PM




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Legionairre
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:32 pm
#31









xLateralusx wrote:

You want a jedi respec and feel Defender is not worth mastering because AI can't be used to it original potential. Yet you say you should be able to respec when something is changed simply to continue playing a template that suits your playstyle.






I strongly agree with this btw...



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trojanman666
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:35 pm
#32

i see where you are coming from and i have been a full templatedjedi from the old system but if someone wants to be a jedi their going to be a jedi and if their where not going to put the efferd to reaching the high level what makes you think they will last as a jedi.
Leanardo
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:37 pm
#33


The changes are not small they just pulled a 360 on jedi and how do we know this is not going to happen agine?



I see what your saying but soon every update, stealth nerf, fix, and or patch people will want a respec. I understood having it at the beginning of cu and how they kept increasing it due to bugs/fixes. And maby a respec every 3 publishes would be suitable but you want a respec when its a jedi publish and smugglers will want one next publish and then commandos and then terskasi and then doctors and cm. They cant give a specific profession a respec because people will just read the pub notes a few days before then pick up novice and respec it all to something else. Ex. A terskasi/doc gets on here and reads that artisan is getting a respec next week. SO he picks up novice artisan and then respecs to bh/commando. Thats not fair.And giving oneout every publishwil ruin the game. Basically its to exploitable to have respecs this often.


Leo




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raora
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:40 pm
#34

did everyone forget how to grind the old way? geez


people are so lazy now after all these respecs


Leanardo
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:43 pm
#35


Leanardo wrote:

your right they didnt say token was the last. the one BEFORE it they did though. A message like "WARNING THIS IS YOUR LAST AND FINAL RESPEC" came up. In the paragraph it said something like After this respec your characters template will be permanent and cannot be altered by csr, respec, etc; only by natural game play.


Leo






Not everyone got that message, some logged in to find out their time was up without ever getting a notice. I didn't need a last respec then, but I never got that message, I logged in and got my profession badges. The token respec was put in because of this bug, some people got stuck with a template they didn't want.


They keep changing so many things about so many professions, that the least they can do is give a respec (2-3 days of them) for us to test it out once professions get nerfed or upgraded with a publish.


What about those that got sick and tired of waiting for a smuggler fix and respec out of it. Now they come along and fix it. shouldn't they get a chance to go back.


And say you were smart and didn't use your token respec. Now with pub 19 you use it to change your Jedi template, so it's gone. Next publish they fix some other Jedi skills and nerf others, now you're stuck with what you got. (well not stuck, but now you have to re-grind what you want out, and depending on what that is, could take a long ass time).


In the end, this is just a game, one that we pay to play. So whenever they make drastic changes to the way it is played, they should at least allow us to respec into something we will have fun in playing. Just MO, but oh well.






No that was the end of the 3 week respecing period. Im talking about the one that everyone got(even noobs) about 2 weeks later after much arguing. I agree there should be sometype of respec for drastic changes,but whose to declare it drastic or not. Doctors are getting a HUGE increase in healing ability. My alt is mrifles/md so I feel like this is a big change, while a bh/rifleman could give a d*mn as he would hardly notice it. I am happy smugglers finally got some love but i dont need a respec because of that. And like I said in my other post you cant give out respecs on what professions get the "major" fixes in a publish because that is exploitable also. A tier=tier respec system would suit me well though. I dont believe that we should have no respecs but i also dont belive we should get one every publish/hotfix.


Leo




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Leanardo
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:45 pm
#36

noob question lol. How do yall get the little "leanardo wrote" (then here is what i wrote) boxes. I just use copy paste and i know thats not how yall do it.


Leo



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cryptichail
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:46 pm
#37






raora wrote:

did everyone forget how to grind the old way? geez


people are so lazy now after all these respecs








I take it you never took advantage of the respec option?


I don't really understand those that are against respecs when they make major changes to some of the professions. They gave us the option to respec, I think everyone probably did. Most of us ended up with what we thought was the best system for usunder the current playing conditions. Now they change things around again, why not allow us to make a change every now and then after a big publish?




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cryptichail
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:48 pm
#38






Leanardo wrote:

noob question lol. How do yall get the little "leanardo wrote" (then here is what i wrote) boxes. I just use copy paste and i know thats not how yall do it.


Leo





click on reply tab on the message you want to quote, then click on the quote icon right next to the smiley face on the toolbar when typing your reply.

Message Edited by cryptichail on 06-22-2005 11:49 PM




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Leanardo
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:50 pm
#39






cryptichail wrote:






Leanardo wrote:

noob question lol. How do yall get the little "leanardo wrote" (then here is what i wrote) boxes. I just use copy paste and i know thats not how yall do it.


Leo





click on reply tab on the message you want to quote, then click on the quote icon right next to the smiley face on the toolbar when typing your reply.

Message Edited by cryptichail on 06-22-2005 11:49 PM





/bow thanks lol ive been wondering this for about 3 months but never really bothered to ask cause i never really needed it.


Leo





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