Jedi Archive

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Cerosis wrote:

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ImpHunter wrote:

I did not really try to turn this into a "Light vs Dark" side debate.

Iwas trying to add a few cents into possibly adding a different slant to the BH hunting Jedi debate. Tis all...Did not mean to ruffle the feathers of the evil ones.

The bottom line is the Jedi content is lacking and something needs to be done to inject some life in it.

As for Episode One, I have no comment, that of all was my least favorite one..

cheers!

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I do agree that jedi are lacking in content, but this is not the way.

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I do, for one, they could add an apprentice system into the game. Also they could add jedi like missions where as a jedi(and his/her apprentice) would go out to try and settle a dispute, collect information, or something like that. Some times the dispute could be settled simply by having the jedi there stating opinions, other times, the next time the disputors could try and kill the jedi because really it is an evil plot to try and kill them. There are plenty of things that could be added to this game to give jedi something to do, hunting BH's is something i hope never comes to pass, because it just doesn't make much sense. Sure, it might make a Smidgeon of sense if you were a dark jedi, but all they care about is their own interests so they wouldn't be off killing some BH unless it did them personally some good(like the BH trying to kill them).

If you want BH to be huntable, prepare for them to get a major boost in PvP capability, because unless that happens, we won't be hunting them any time soon.

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Barb-Wire wrote:

obi wan was working as a hired thug out to stop anyone who had a difference of opinion with the council. he was out to kill jango who had done nothing wrong. Senator Palpatine was working to remove a malovelent evil from the galaxy which was the old republic and restore peace and order to the galaxy so that all may live in freedom without fear of "Jedi Knights" coming in the middle of the night to steal children from their warm loving homes and turn them into murderous assassins.

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Obi-Wan Kenobi was trying to solve the mystery behind the evil workings that were currently trying to infest the system. If he was out to kill jango and was a thug, he would have done so while jango was un-armed and unable to fight back.

When you're done being brainwashed by the emperor, let me know and i'll be happy to relate the true happenings, until then, continuing this conversation is pointless because I know the truth and will not change my opinion, and you are a mindlessly obediant thug who thinks their in-falable emperor is the savior of the galaxy.

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ImpHunter wrote:

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Cerosis wrote:
I do, for one, they could add an apprentice system into the game. Also they could add jedi like missions where as a jedi(and his/her apprentice) would go out to try and settle a dispute, collect information, or something like that. Some times the dispute could be settled simply by having the jedi there stating opinions, other times, the next time the disputors could try and kill the jedi because really it is an evil plot to try and kill them. There are plenty of things that could be added to this game to give jedi something to do, hunting BH's is something i hope never comes to pass, because it just doesn't make much sense. Sure, it might make a Smidgeon of sense if you were a dark jedi, but all they care about is their own interests so they wouldn't be off killing some BH unless it did them personally some good(like the BH trying to kill them).

If you want BH to be huntable, prepare for them to get a major boost in PvP capability, because unless that happens, we won't be hunting them any time soon.

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hmm,

Master and apprentice, I like that...alot

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there have been plenty of really good ideas that have been suggested on these boards, unfortunatly they are constantly getting tossed to the later pages because of all the whining that is going on. Frankly, i know i shouldn't be so rude at times, but the whining is really getting to me. I remember one of my guild mates telling me that she never knew that jedi was a PvP profession, she knew that getting on the terminals meant being hunted, but she refused to acknowledge that she should be placed on the terminals for dueling friends and having a good time.

Jedi have gotten so many breaks recently that it's no wonder our power has been stripped from us. First we had perma-death removed(bad system, but with that went half of our power) Next jedi had skill removal removed from the game, true it didn't make sense but because that was taken away, jedi again took a hit in the ammount of power they could unleash.

Later on we had our cloning experience loss taken away because too many jedi were dieing without being smart enough to have a doc on hand ready to rez them. I remember when i played, and if i all of a sudden went offline, i had 3 or 4 doctor friends do a quick /findfriend rehhtahn to come to my aid just in case i had been kicked in an unfavorable situation.

Lastly, we have had group TEF's taken away, while i will admit that in the new system where grouping is necessary(even for jedi) group TEF's didn't make sense, a better solution would have been to give jedi extra damage in PvE situations(even against Faction'd NPC's) Our PvP damage is just about where it should be, because it isn't fair if jedi were going around one hit incapping everybody(which they could just about do if our dmg went up) but giving us a 200% boost in dmg against regular mobs(or 400% would be even nicer as a lightsaber is supposed to cut through anything) would have solved the group TEF situation easily. Jedi shouldn't be in those hunting groups, they are supposed to remain hidden. The problem is that with each new bonus jedi get, the move visible we become, and because of that, the more we get nerfed.

When the CU first came out and everybody started asking for jedi to not get TEF's in groups i said then, and i say now that that solution was the dumbest solution immaginable. I knew then that if that was done we'd loose even more power. There are a lot of jedi out there that are extreamly powerfull, but that is mostly due to their great saber dmg when compared to some of the newer jedi who have crap for saber dmg. Needless to say, with every new whine request that goes through, jedi will take another swing from the nerf bat in responce, which is why I cannot stand the whining.

Whining only hurts everybody, including the BH's because with every new whine, jedi get weaker and weaker, and once jedi are nerfed to the point where they can't win, Bh will take the next nerf bat.

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Cerosis wrote:

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Barb-Wire wrote:

obi wan was working as a hired thug out to stop anyone who had a difference of opinion with the council. he was out to kill jango who had done nothing wrong. Senator Palpatine was working to remove a malovelent evil from the galaxy which was the old republic and restore peace and order to the galaxy so that all may live in freedom without fear of "Jedi Knights" coming in the middle of the night to steal children from their warm loving homes and turn them into murderous assassins.

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Obi-Wan Kenobi was trying to solve the mystery behind the evil workings that were currently trying to infest the system. If he was out to kill jango and was a thug, he would have done so while jango was un-armed and unable to fight back.

When you're done being brainwashed by the emperor, let me know and i'll be happy to relate the true happenings, until then, continuing this conversation is pointless because I know the truth and will not change my opinion, and you are a mindlessly obediant thug who thinks their in-falable emperor is the savior of the galaxy.

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/deepbow

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ImpHunter wrote:

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Cerosis wrote:

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Barb-Wire wrote:

obi wan was working as a hired thug out to stop anyone who had a difference of opinion with the council. he was out to kill jango who had done nothing wrong. Senator Palpatine was working to remove a malovelent evil from the galaxy which was the old republic and restore peace and order to the galaxy so that all may live in freedom without fear of "Jedi Knights" coming in the middle of the night to steal children from their warm loving homes and turn them into murderous assassins.

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Obi-Wan Kenobi was trying to solve the mystery behind the evil workings that were currently trying to infest the system. If he was out to kill jango and was a thug, he would have done so while jango was un-armed and unable to fight back.

When you're done being brainwashed by the emperor, let me know and i'll be happy to relate the true happenings, until then, continuing this conversation is pointless because I know the truth and will not change my opinion, and you are a mindlessly obediant thug who thinks their in-falable emperor is the savior of the galaxy.

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/deepbow

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/deepbow as well

Dont bash my fav char Obi-Wan and make him out to be some SWG Rebel Jedi Scum.

we could all be the new jedi order,

The Jedi Order and the Sith Zealots (dunno, u can think of somethinbetter than zealots... i just liek that word and we need sith... Dark Jedi get pwned by sith)

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ImpHunter wrote:

If the timeline is to be believed there is no Jedi Order.

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And Han was not frozen in carbonite....he and Chewie are handing out missions.

Bottom line is this game only loosely follows the timeline. There were not any Wookie Imps either. So why cant the "New Jedi Order" take matters into their own hands....for their own survival.

Add a new style of PA that allows the formation of an "Order"

If this game follwed the timeline I would eat my hat

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at launch this game started 6 months after EP 4 so Han was about 3 years from being frozen, and even with all the sun sets we have seen, we are still not in the EP 5 era ..

and i would say no to this, im one of the hiding jedi (non-starport deuler), and as a jedi i wouldnt go out hunting someone

Message Edited by MysticOne622 on 10-13-2005 08:47 PM

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RebelArchAngel wrote:

we could all be the new jedi order,

The Jedi Order and the Sith Zealots (dunno, u can think of somethinbetter than zealots... i just liek that word and we need sith... Dark Jedi get pwned by sith)

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You know, if you haven't already seen the commercial for SWG (one of them), that is exactly what the game advertisers suggest in the ad.