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Thread: Who would argue the Vong as an alternate alpha?

Ihareo
Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:17 am
#27


Message Edited by Ihareo on 10-08-2005 02:32 AM




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Ihareo
Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:18 am
#28






XanKrieger wrote:

Adding the VOng according to the EU in terms of an aplha class would be ALOT more powerful than Jedi, as they are immune to the force as they are outside it and have a high threshold for pain






And THAT is why I hate the Vong. It goes against everything that Star Wars is based on. Outside the force indeed. Nevermind that the Force is the only universal constant.


"Life crates it, makes it grow" The Yussm Vong use biotechnology, esentially ALL living tecnhology, yet somehow, someway is just kinda not affected by the force. Bullsith.


And I'll tell you somthing else, the vast majority of the things that happen in those books are so far removed from Star Wars canon that it makes SWG look like the bible. It's like suddenly the entire galaxy took stupid pills and forgot everething they knew about strategy and improvisation. Kinda like 'Oh noes, I can't force choke it! I may as well just die! Nevermind all the other possible strategic solutions to the problem!' or 'If only we had some supertechnological weaponry available! Hm. All we have are these Lightsabers, proton torpedos, thermal detonators and turbolasers, oh woe is us, we are no match for their mutilatedflesh and theirself inflicted wounds!'


I'll bet any amount of money the author had his own sci-fi story where the Vong were the main antagonist, but he couldn't get it published, so he decided to slap it into a Star Wars book, since traditionally any book with a Star Wars title goes right tothe NewYork times best seller list.






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Ihareo
Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:39 am
#29






Krun1 wrote:





DarkShadow1313 wrote:
If this game was set after Episode 6 then sure. Then again aren't the Vong unable to be manipulated or touched by the Force cause they are not part of the Force.






Remember, the Vong are in this timeline. In fact if you stayed true to the books they would outnumber the jedi in this time period...by ALOT. Also, they are part of the force just they exist in a different realm of it. Anakin Solo proved this when he died in Star by Star. His perception of the force changed just as he was dying to include them, hence his ability to take out 30+ of them on his own.






Yet another example of how utterly rediculous that whole series is.


A Jedi's perception of the force is that it is all emcompasing. It is what makes the universe one. That situation, in my opinion, is the writer's feeble attempt to justify why his monsters are teh badxorz, while at the same time throwing the other Star Wars writer's metaplots for their books.


This is what I point to when I say that the EU is constantly contradicting itself. Remember people, any yahoo off the street can write and publish a starwars novel. The sad part is that some fans treat every novel like it's canon.











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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:18 pm
#30






Ihareo wrote:






Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:

Meh. Immune to the force doesn't mean the force suddenly stops working. It just means that you can't affect THEM with it. Anything that affects yourself or your environment would be ok.






Exactly. But for some strange reason in the books no one uses that to their advantage. You know why? Because then the author would have no story.




I hear you. Which makes the whole "Immune to Force" Vong thing pretty craptastic. How many more anti-force living things do we really need in the SWG universe, a universe where every living thing is a part of the force...well...except these bugs here, and those guys that live over there...and...



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Glzmo
Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:58 pm
#31

Jacen burns a few Yuuhzan Vong with Force lightning
Anyway, they do not fit into the timeline at all, so stop thinking about it, please.

Message Edited by Glzmo on 10-14-2005 12:59 AM



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Krun1
Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:01 am
#32






Glzmo wrote:
Jacen burns a few Yuuhzan Vong with Force lightning
Anyway, they do not fit into the timeline at all, so stop thinking about it, please.

Message Edited by Glzmo on 10-14-200512:59 AM





Enough of the timeline argument!


1) If we were true to the timeline, there would be no Jedi (technically there would be like 3)


2)In this timeline the Vong outnumber the Jedi, they are just spies


3)SOE are masters of continuity and staying true to the timeline so they know this as well


But I agree, the vong don't belong in the game....On that same note though they have just as much right to be in the game as the jedi, maybe more so. Hell, I don't know what I think. I'm torn between looking for something else to do in the game and the complete and utter incompitence of the coding behind it.I'm really concerned about this game and it's future.





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