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Thread: Why dont our sabers compare to elite weapons?
WookieOgre wrote:
lovisa wrote:
WookieOgre wrote:
lovisa wrote:
Pday wrote:
lovisa wrote:
it is not all about max dmg look on min dmg and see that most wepons dont have alot more there
again my rifle is 670 - 690 min depending on the stats on the powerup, 82 sac, kinetic damage, 1.33 mod speed, also 1350 - 1370 max depending on pu
my saber has min dmg 629+217=846 max dmg is 717+217=934 so as you see it is no hugh diffrens and mine is not capped either i miss about 17 dmg
for speed it is 1,25 without tape just mod speed cant remember what base speed is atm just that it is 3.2 without pearls
Message Edited by lovisa on 10-24-200509:24 AM
Sorry you can't do that. You can not just "add" elemental damage to your min/max. It's completely different. Look at the combat spam. You'll notice something, elemental damage does not scale with specials.
Back when I used to play my Jedi constantly I would see maybe 100 extra damage from elemental.
i know it is not added it do dmg by it self but it is still about the same
?
about the same as what? I can tell you if I had a saber that was 846-934 you'd have some people crying. You would be able to get 2k hits for sure with a saber like that.
WookieOgre wrote:
lovisa wrote:
WookieOgre wrote:
lovisa wrote:
Pday wrote:
lovisa wrote:
it is not all about max dmg look on min dmg and see that most wepons dont have alot more there
again my rifle is 670 - 690 min depending on the stats on the powerup, 82 sac, kinetic damage, 1.33 mod speed, also 1350 - 1370 max depending on pu
my saber has min dmg 629+217=846 max dmg is 717+217=934 so as you see it is no hugh diffrens and mine is not capped either i miss about 17 dmgfor speed it is 1,25 without tape just mod speed cant remember what base speed is atm just that it is 3.2 without pearls
Message Edited by lovisa on 10-24-2005 09:24 AM
Sorry you can't do that. You can not just "add" elemental damage to your min/max. It's completely different. Look at the combat spam. You'll notice something, elemental damage does not scale with specials.Back when I used to play my Jedi constantly I would see maybe 100 extra damage from elemental.
i know it is not added it do dmg by it self but it is still about the same
?about the same as what? I can tell you if I had a saber that was 846-934 you'd have some people crying. You would be able to get 2k hits for sure with a saber like that.
Exactly. That is because elemental damage isn't just added to the top of your normal damage.
lovisa wrote:
i said the elem dmg use it won but still count . but explain how you mean instead ?
What do you mean instead?
My point is this, if our saber damage was as you said min dmg 629+217=846 max dmg is 717+217=934 you would see much higher damage output than with 629-717 damage with 217 elemental. Elemental does not havemutipliers. It is what it is. I just wanted to point that out since from the way you posted it you assumed elementaljust added directly to your min/max damage.
Pday wrote:
lovisa wrote:
Pday wrote:
lovisa wrote:
it is not all about max dmg look on min dmg and see that most wepons dont have alot more there
again my rifle is 670 - 690 min depending on the stats on the powerup, 82 sac, kinetic damage, 1.33 mod speed, also 1350 - 1370 max depending on pu
my saber has min dmg 629+217=846 max dmg is 717+217=934 so as you see it is no hugh diffrens and mine is not capped either i miss about 17 dmg
for speed it is 1,25 without tape just mod speed cant remember what base speed is atm just that it is 3.2 without pearls
Message Edited by lovisa on 10-24-2005 09:24 AM
ok this is the last damn time i explain this to people :
Saber : 629 - 717 doing a saber body hit (1.8 damage modifier) = 1132 if hitting at min, 1290 if hitting at max av damage of : 1211 + 217 elemental = 1428
My bowcaster : 680 - 1360 doing adv criticalshot (1.9 modifer) = 1292 at min , 2448 if hitting at max, av damage = 1870
The elemetal is SH1T id rather have elemental removed and replaced with 200 more to min and max of a crafted saber, because the elemental is NOT multiplied with the damage modifier of the special.
you also forgot the Elemental damage is resisted about 40-50% from armor. That 200 is really 100 rofl.
Pday wrote:
ok this is the last damn time i explain this to people :
Saber : 629 - 717 doing a saber body hit (1.8 damage modifier) = 1132 if hitting at min, 1290 if hitting at max av damage of : 1211 + 217 elemental = 1428
My bowcaster : 680 - 1360 doing adv criticalshot (1.9 modifer) = 1292 at min , 2448 if hitting at max, av damage = 1870
The elemetal is SH1T id rather have elemental removed and replaced with 200 more to min and max of a crafted saber, because the elemental is NOT multiplied with the damage modifier of the special.
lovisa wrote:
Pday wrote:
ok this is the last damn time i explain this to people :
Saber : 629 - 717 doing a saber body hit (1.8 damage modifier) = 1132 if hitting at min, 1290 if hitting at max av damage of : 1211 + 217 elemental = 1428
My bowcaster : 680 - 1360 doing adv criticalshot (1.9 modifer) = 1292 at min , 2448 if hitting at max, av damage = 1870
The elemetal is SH1T id rather have elemental removed and replaced with 200 more to min and max of a crafted saber, because the elemental is NOT multiplied with the damage modifier of the special.
cool did not know elem dmg was so crappy
Now do me a favor.... place all you stats the bowcaster has a dmg pup so give me the
speed and sac for both weapons please. Better yet just screenie both weapons.
Your not doing a fair compairson again..... why do you distort stuff to make it look a certian way???
Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 10-24-2005 01:17 PM
Anarchicgorilla wrote:
lovisa wrote:
Pday wrote:
ok this is the last damn time i explain this to people :
Saber : 629 - 717 doing a saber body hit (1.8 damage modifier) = 1132 if hitting at min, 1290 if hitting at max av damage of : 1211 + 217 elemental = 1428
My bowcaster : 680 - 1360 doing adv criticalshot (1.9 modifer) = 1292 at min , 2448 if hitting at max, av damage = 1870
The elemetal is SH1T id rather have elemental removed and replaced with 200 more to min and max of a crafted saber, because the elemental is NOT multiplied with the damage modifier of the special.
cool did not know elem dmg was so crappy
Now do me a favor.... place all you stats the bowcaster has a dmg pup so give me the
speed and sac for both weapons please. Better yet just screenie both weapons.
Your not doing a fair compairson again..... why do you distort stuff to make it look a certian way???
Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 10-24-2005 01:17 PM
Message Edited by Pday on 10-24-2005 12:08 PM