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Thread: Why dont our sabers compare to elite weapons?

GunFu
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:29 am
#14

Ive just grinded my alt to MBH/MR/CM4000 in 2 days. I got a laser rifle I picked up for 15k and took him against my friends jedi that wass the same template as me and had a little bit better saber. ITs sad really that my 2 day old alt with a 15k priced rifle can out dmg my jedi. I spent 120 million on crystals and pearls and still cant out dmg a refular laser rifle. Something is very wrong here.



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paolo_ikro
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:32 am
#15

I would also like to see there being a difference between the sabers again, as it was Pre CU. I would like to see the SAC adjusted accordingly, for example;


1 handed Lightsaber, should have a SAC around the same SAC asa pistol, after all they are both one handed weapons/lightweight. This would also be the fastest lightsaber


2 handed Lightsaber, should have a SAC around the same as that of a carbine, the weapon is larger and requires more physical effort to use. This would be marginally slower than the one handed saber, but would deal more damage.


Double Bladed Lightsaber, should have a SAC similar to that of the current ones, for example 96. It is the largest of the three types and therefore uses the most action, but in turn it would also deal more damage while being the slowest of the three.


As it currently stands there is no real benefit to using any of the three, and as I see it there are still lots of Double Bladed Saber users out there, including myself. I used to use a 1 handed saber, however, I looted some good DB LS accuracy and speed tapes and so went back to using one.






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EvilAztec
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:34 am
#16

What's sad is a lot of Jedi are worse off than I am and people wonder why Jedi don't want to fight. My F-FWG5 has nearly the same minimum damage, my rifle more. You would think that tuning Quality andPremiums mostly I would have gotten a better saber, but no. This -expletive- system guarantees if you're not a powergrinder you're -expletive-.





lovisa wrote:





EvilAztec wrote:

Yeah, but I'm Pre-CU as well and my max is 575


To you and the BH above, I've tuned over 300 crystals and pearls, and your min damage still beats my max


What a -expletive- system.





lovisa wrote:





Pday wrote:





lovisa wrote:

it is not all about max dmg look on min dmg and see that most wepons dont have alot more there





again my rifle is 670 - 690 min depending on the stats on the powerup, 82 sac, kinetic damage, 1.33 mod speed, also 1350 - 1370 max depending on pu





my saber has min dmg 629 so as you see it is no hugh diffrens and mine is not capped either i miss about 17 dmg












yea i am very lucky i have my saber but i have worked very hard to get the pearls

i hunted 4-5 weeks pre cu 3-8 hours a day just to get prems and i got around 5-60 prem and alot of quality









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GunFu
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:36 am
#17

I dont want jedi to be uber my any means, I would just like to have comparable dmg to other professions. Truthfully, since there are so manyjedi now I dont think we should have an advantage over any other profession at all. However I do believe that jedi masters should. Also, there needs to be a cap on jedi masters so we dont have 1k of them running around. Jedi knight should be trial based. Any hire should be voted on for the light and pvped for the dark jedi.



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One-Wit_DaForce
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:37 am
#18

I use to whine about jedi are too good. This is BS etc etc. Now I whine about how much it sucks. The problem is that it was good and now its not horrible but its really sad when you can't kill a BH who doesn't get the jump on you. They just wear down your force. This needs to change. Just add 50 percent more damage jedi or make the jedi force bar recharge like the action bar.



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oWsCloned
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:38 am
#19

Just wait till the ToOW weapons start falling into the hands of BHs. The new rifle has a min damage of 640 or so and a max of 1260. I have tuned over 150 crystals and pearls post cu and there is no way I can compete with a rifle that does that much damage. If they aren't going to fix any other issues with jedi, at least make sabers stronger. They have significantly made every other loot weapon stronger.



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EvilAztec
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:40 am
#20

Actually if they implemented what is in my sig, we could be again without affecting others adversely.




GunFu wrote:
I dont want jedi to be uber my any means, I would just like to have comparable dmg to other professions. Truthfully, since there are so manyjedi now I dont think we should have an advantage over any other profession at all. However I do believe that jedi masters should. Also, there needs to be a cap on jedi masters so we dont have 1k of them running around. Jedi knight should be trial based. Any hire should be voted on for the light and pvped for the dark jedi.









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Jedi went from being an Icon to a normal profession
The combat system is being reduced to Enemy Territory online
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lovisa
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:42 am
#21






GunFu wrote:
I dont want jedi to be uber my any means, I would just like to have comparable dmg to other professions. Truthfully, since there are so manyjedi now I dont think we should have an advantage over any other profession at all. However I do believe that jedi masters should. Also, there needs to be a cap on jedi masters so we dont have 1k of them running around. Jedi knight should be trial based. Any hire should be voted on for the light and pvped for the dark jedi.





if the prems start drop again then i am sure your dmg on your saber is enought sure i would like 1-200more dmg but i think it might get unbalanced then but some extra dmg on the hilt like 50-100dmg and prems and flawless dropps again it would solve mostly



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WookieOgre
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:43 am
#22






lovisa wrote:







Pday wrote:





lovisa wrote:

it is not all about max dmg look on min dmg and see that most wepons dont have alot more there





again my rifle is 670 - 690 min depending on the stats on the powerup, 82 sac, kinetic damage, 1.33 mod speed, also 1350 - 1370 max depending on pu





my saber has min dmg 629+217=846 max dmg is 717+217=934 so as you see it is no hugh diffrens and mine is not capped either i miss about 17 dmg

for speed it is 1,25 without tape just mod speed cant remember what base speed is atm just that it is 3.2 without pearls


Message Edited by lovisa on 10-24-2005 09:24 AM





Sorry you can't do that. You can not just "add" elemental damage to your min/max. It's completely different. Look at the combat spam. You'll notice something, elemental damage does not scale with specials.


Back when I used to play my Jedi constantly I would see maybe 100 extra damage from elemental.
lovisa
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:46 am
#23






WookieOgre wrote:





lovisa wrote:







Pday wrote:





lovisa wrote:

it is not all about max dmg look on min dmg and see that most wepons dont have alot more there





again my rifle is 670 - 690 min depending on the stats on the powerup, 82 sac, kinetic damage, 1.33 mod speed, also 1350 - 1370 max depending on pu





my saber has min dmg 629+217=846 max dmg is 717+217=934 so as you see it is no hugh diffrens and mine is not capped either i miss about 17 dmg

for speed it is 1,25 without tape just mod speed cant remember what base speed is atm just that it is 3.2 without pearls


Message Edited by lovisa on 10-24-2005 09:24 AM





Sorry you can't do that. You can not just "add" elemental damage to your min/max. It's completely different. Look at the combat spam. You'll notice something, elemental damage does not scale with specials.


Back when I used to play my Jedi constantly I would see maybe 100 extra damage from elemental.





i know it is not added it do dmg by it self but it is still about the same



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jobothehobbit
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:50 am
#24


Fought a BH yesterday, AB stuck...used powerhit adn my best damage against him was 678. I am MLS with 698 max damage saber.


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jonstraf
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:51 am
#25

Oh so it's about minium damage? So that explains why we aren't very good. *Looks at saber* 435 minimum damage. Thanks for telling me .



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WookieOgre
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:53 am
#26






lovisa wrote:





WookieOgre wrote:





lovisa wrote:







Pday wrote:





lovisa wrote:

it is not all about max dmg look on min dmg and see that most wepons dont have alot more there





again my rifle is 670 - 690 min depending on the stats on the powerup, 82 sac, kinetic damage, 1.33 mod speed, also 1350 - 1370 max depending on pu





my saber has min dmg 629+217=846 max dmg is 717+217=934 so as you see it is no hugh diffrens and mine is not capped either i miss about 17 dmg

for speed it is 1,25 without tape just mod speed cant remember what base speed is atm just that it is 3.2 without pearls


Message Edited by lovisa on 10-24-2005 09:24 AM





Sorry you can't do that. You can not just "add" elemental damage to your min/max. It's completely different. Look at the combat spam. You'll notice something, elemental damage does not scale with specials.


Back when I used to play my Jedi constantly I would see maybe 100 extra damage from elemental.





i know it is not added it do dmg by it self but it is still about the same






?


about the same as what? I can tell you if I had a saber that was 846-934 you'd have some people crying. You would be able to get 2k hits for sure with a saber like that.

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