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Thread: You would think after all this time the Devs would have figured out....
this sounds like a good idea to ask for. have your name removed from the terminal should you kill the bh after you. something like this the devs might listen to.
rizzacathon wrote:
wrong i have jedi. it is way easier now with absolutly no risk if you have even the slightost clue on how to play your jedi. either way you look at it all i am tring to say is why ask for something the devs will not do? bh hunting jedi is going to stay no matter how many jedi that cant hack the limited risk cry. to many accounts would be canceled for it to be removed.
instead asking for small fixes might actually be looked at. dont cry frs instead ask for healing to go from 6 secs to 4 secs. there are a dozen small fixes that could increase jedi power. something reasonable that the devs can say yes to.
Open your eyes, close your mouth, and take a look at all the "fixes" we're getting. What's broke has either been broke recently by the devs, or has been broke for months on end with no fixes in sight. And because of that, the system doesn't work.
Your comments are foolish, and largely incorrect. So I won't bother going any further then that.
only thing I really have to say is that the term risk means different things to different people.Because of that, what one player thinks is risk, another player thinks is a nuisance and grief.
BH system needs to be revamped simply because it was designed around a complete different combat system that no longer exist. You don't have to like it and you don't have to believe something is wrong.....but when the debate is as huge as it is right now and 50% of people are quitting, then something is obviously wrong. People aren't just making this stuff up.
Wanting to come to a compromise with the BH system is not unreasonable. Players want options because not everyone plays the game exactly the same or has the same mindset. One man's trash is another man's treasure. If all trash was treasure, then there would be no trash.
rizzacathon wrote:
Grunzer wrote:
Open your eyes, close your mouth, and take a look at all the "fixes" we're getting. What's broke has either been broke recently by the devs, or has been broke for months on end with no fixes in sight. And because of that, the system doesn't work.
Your comments are foolish, and largely incorrect. So I won't bother going any further then that.
in all honesty learn to play jedi then come to the forums to cry. listen to a few that have been arround since launch and ask just how much easier they think it is before you try to tell others how it is. recently jedi recieved nothing but nerfs and a good portion of it is due to the devs continue belief that nerf = fix. after they removed groups giving vis there was little reason to really say you have it tough anymore. try gaining those millions of xp alone trying to remany hidden from everything.
Just to clear most of this crap up right now. I have NOT been killed by a single BH since the CU. I have beaten the best BHs on my server while they were exploiting heals and attacks at the same time. Its not a question of "being able to learn your Jedi", it is a fact of it makes an unhealthy community in this game. And since its more far out of balanced than a 500 lb. man on one end and a 100 lb. man on another end of a see saw, it should no longer exist.
How can anyone think this is a healthy system in an MMO when it never worked in the past, and is CLEARLY not working now. You cant have a forced system when every patch broadens the gap of balance farther and farther away. And there is far more to balance, than one's character skill set.
TheNarcis wrote:
rizzacathon wrote:
Grunzer wrote:
Open your eyes, close your mouth, and take a look at all the "fixes" we're getting. What's broke has either been broke recently by the devs, or has been broke for months on end with no fixes in sight. And because of that, the system doesn't work.
Your comments are foolish, and largely incorrect. So I won't bother going any further then that.
in all honesty learn to play jedi then come to the forums to cry. listen to a few that have been arround since launch and ask just how much easier they think it is before you try to tell others how it is. recently jedi recieved nothing but nerfs and a good portion of it is due to the devs continue belief that nerf = fix. after they removed groups giving vis there was little reason to really say you have it tough anymore. try gaining those millions of xp alone trying to remany hidden from everything.
Just to clear most of this crap up right now. I have NOT been killed by a single BH since the CU. I have beaten the best BHs on my server while they were exploiting heals and attacks at the same time. Its not a question of "being able to learn your Jedi", it is a fact of it makes an unhealthy community in this game. And since its more far out of balanced than a 500 lb. man on one end and a 100 lb. man on another end of a see saw, it should no longer exist.
How can anyone think this is a healthy system in an MMO when it never worked in the past, and is CLEARLY not working now. You cant have a forced system when every patch broadens the gap of balance farther and farther away. And there is far more to balance, than one's character skill set.
So your saying you never died from a BH yet you are complaining about BH's being more powerful than you?
/eats eyeballs in fetal position
DoctorFett wrote:
TheNarcis wrote:
rizzacathon wrote:
Grunzer wrote:
Open your eyes, close your mouth, and take a look at all the "fixes" we're getting. What's broke has either been broke recently by the devs, or has been broke for months on end with no fixes in sight. And because of that, the system doesn't work.
Your comments are foolish, and largely incorrect. So I won't bother going any further then that.
in all honesty learn to play jedi then come to the forums to cry. listen to a few that have been arround since launch and ask just how much easier they think it is before you try to tell others how it is. recently jedi recieved nothing but nerfs and a good portion of it is due to the devs continue belief that nerf = fix. after they removed groups giving vis there was little reason to really say you have it tough anymore. try gaining those millions of xp alone trying to remany hidden from everything.
Just to clear most of this crap up right now. I have NOT been killed by a single BH since the CU. I have beaten the best BHs on my server while they were exploiting heals and attacks at the same time. Its not a question of "being able to learn your Jedi", it is a fact of it makes an unhealthy community in this game. And since its more far out of balanced than a 500 lb. man on one end and a 100 lb. man on another end of a see saw, it should no longer exist.
How can anyone think this is a healthy system in an MMO when it never worked in the past, and is CLEARLY not working now. You cant have a forced system when every patch broadens the gap of balance farther and farther away. And there is far more to balance, than one's character skill set.
So your saying you never died from a BH yet you are complaining about BH's being more powerful than you?
/eats eyeballs in fetal position
I also stated I have not logged in numerous times since the day before Publish 24 in other threads. And yes there is clearly some major exploiting and more derivative game imbalances that are destroying it. But a name with Fett in it and a BH Icon would not clearly understand such concerns.
MordackKahn wrote:What's with the carebears in this game? If this game were pac-man, you'd complain to the devs about the ghosts.
You are confusing PVP with PVE.
And from what I've seen in the BH boards, a lot of BHs are whining that the boss NPC marks are too tough for them... are they "carebears", too?
Remember, the path to the Dark Side is quick and easy, but the light side is more powerful. The people who wanted the short path should have remembered that.
MordackKahn wrote:
What's with the carebears in this game? If this game were pac-man, you'd complain to the devs about the ghosts.
whats up with the uber leet want to pwn everyone under the sun little kiddies that play this game. they are the most annoying. If this game was pac-man they would find a super-god mode code to cheat their way through every level because they too wouldnt want to be killed by the ghosts.
AriasImmortal wrote:
We had plenty of power. And then a bunch of idiots decided that they wanted to be Jedi and they wanted it to be easy. In the face of such numbers, the devs were forced to make Jedi easy... but as compensation they screwed Jedi over.
Remember, the path to the Dark Side is quick and easy, but the light side is more powerful. The people who wanted the short path should have remembered that.
DoctorFett wrote:
AriasImmortal wrote:
We had plenty of power. And then a bunch of idiots decided that they wanted to be Jedi and they wanted it to be easy. In the face of such numbers, the devs were forced to make Jedi easy... but as compensation they screwed Jedi over.
Remember, the path to the Dark Side is quick and easy, but the light side is more powerful. The people who wanted the short path should have remembered that.
Thank you, finally someone says how it actually went down, when people wanted to become jedi they wanted it to be simple. And now since its so simple to become jedi, i.e grind xp for so long and trade it in for FS xp, the so called balence the DEVs have brought upon jedi have done nothing but weaken them, Im not for jedi one bit but when you take the most powerful being in the galaxy, and make him so weak that any noob with a gun can come along and beat him, thats not fixing thats just stupid
I agree with that. And that is something they never should have done. But it was innevitable since that was the ultimate prize that 75%+ of the player base wanted. But since there is no more power (was reward)there should be no more risks. Especially since it is so one sided now with exploits and bugs.
And as for the second char slot, Tiggs noticed a thread asking for it to be a vet reward. She liked the idea, since some say people wont grind jedi then if they can get it that way,and said she will pass it to her dev team with enthusiasm. So that other reward is in limbo as we speak. Even if you get a second slot, its no reward anymore. All you do now is regrind to the template you liked, since Jedi, the icons of Star Wars, have been turned into something embarrassing and unfun to play.
TheNarcis wrote:
DoctorFett wrote:
AriasImmortal wrote:
We had plenty of power. And then a bunch of idiots decided that they wanted to be Jedi and they wanted it to be easy. In the face of such numbers, the devs were forced to make Jedi easy... but as compensation they screwed Jedi over.
Remember, the path to the Dark Side is quick and easy, but the light side is more powerful. The people who wanted the short path should have remembered that.
Thank you, finally someone says how it actually went down, when people wanted to become jedi they wanted it to be simple. And now since its so simple to become jedi, i.e grind xp for so long and trade it in for FS xp, the so called balence the DEVs have brought upon jedi have done nothing but weaken them, Im not for jedi one bit but when you take the most powerful being in the galaxy, and make him so weak that any noob with a gun can come along and beat him, thats not fixing thats just stupid
I agree with that. And that is something they never should have done. But it was innevitable since that was the ultimate prize that 75%+ of the player base wanted. But since there is no more power (was reward)there should be no more risks. Especially since it is so one sided now with exploits and bugs.
And as for the second char slot, Tiggs noticed a thread asking for it to be a vet reward. She liked the idea, since some say people wont grind jedi then if they can get it that way,and said she will pass it to her dev team with enthusiasm. So that other reward is in limbo as we speak. Even if you get a second slot, its no reward anymore. All you do now is regrind to the template you liked, since Jedi, the icons of Star Wars, have been turned into something embarrassing and unfun to play.
Message Edited by DoctorFett on 10-25-2005 07:03 PM