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Thread: Pub 24 Rules

sm1550
Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:25 pm
#27






Airleas wrote:





sm1550 wrote:





Airleas wrote:






Physkoris wrote:

They made the game harder.


They kept the rewards the same.


The rewards already sucked for most high-end PVE.


So what's the point anymore? Just another ultimate game balance. Don't even have to mention the imbalance between anyone with snare and anyone without it.






I think there will be some nice drops in the new expansion.






why should i have to buy the expansion to get some decent loot drops? hunting krayts with some friends tonight - a bit harder, but doable, whatever - and in 20 kills we looted 1 good pearl (tuned to 41 dmg, -4 fc), 2 smuggler slicing components and 1 set of 60 dmg, -.47 speed tissues. great, increase ai, sure, whatever...but if you are going to make it hard to kill things, at least make it worth my time to do so.


if the only place to get good loot is the expansion, thats just bull**edit**.








People whine about nothing to do. They whine about content. So SOE is coming out with an expansion to give people that. So you have to buy it ... big deal. You think all the time and money put into developing this expansion is free? No, so why would you think it should be free to you.


As far as my temp goes, currently I am changing to m enh with some saber, defender and healer. I was just m powers/m enh 4400 healer and liked it, but I like being more than support and I like to be melee. I have been a ton of things before that ... but if I don't like this m enh temp, I will go back to m def with saber, healing and enh. I am not a huge AI fan, I just like all the extra toughness that m def gets. My stats on my saber are ok - I experimented all into fc and sac. So I am sitting at 96 sac, 9 fc and 689 dmg. Not the highest dmg, but I like the fc and the sac.... I never run out of action or force.






They added the Geo Caves, Corvette and DWB without charging us for an expansion, so its not like i'm coming out of left field here.


and anyway, w.t.f. do you mean 'free'? somehow I think I pay $15/month per account. If all of that is going to running the servers and not paying devs to fix loot drops and add a bit of content, then w.t.f. is it being spent on?


I think they need to fix the **edit**ing loot tables if they are going to increase the difficulty of all the mobs. I'm sick of killing things and getting complete and utter crap for my efforts. I welcome more difficult fights, but make the rewards worthwhile. I don't expect anything for free, but I damn well expect something decent for my $15/month per account.

Message Edited by sm1550 on 10-20-2005 02:26 AM

Airleas
Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:35 pm
#28










They added the Geo Caves, Corvette and DWB without charging us for an expansion, so its not like i'm coming out of left field here.


and anyway, w.t.f. do you mean 'free'? somehow I think I pay $15/month per account. If all of that is going to running the servers and not paying devs to fix loot drops and add a bit of content, then w.t.f. is it being spent on?


I think they need to fix the **edit**ing loot tables if they are going to increase the difficulty of all the mobs. I'm sick of killing things and getting complete and utter crap for my efforts. I welcome more difficult fights, but make the rewards worthwhile. I don't expect anything for free, but I damn well expect something decent for my $15/month per account.


Message Edited by sm1550 on 10-20-200502:26 AM





Yes they did, but those were to planets already in the game. From what I have heard/experienced Mustafar is a new planet with several high level dungeons and quests. That is what you are paying for .... your $14.99 probably goes to staff pay, staff insurance, server upkeep, etc. relating to running a business.


I don't know what it is like on your server, but on Gorath there are a ton of jedi. I honestly think that the absence of premium/flawless pearls and crystals is simply jedi population control. I know that sucks, but that is how I see it. I think they are going to eventually increase drop rate and quality after this expansion. My opinion, but that is how I see it.



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Airleas
Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:47 pm
#29

/confused ummmmmmm you just lost me there.... I got bored half way through. Sorry.





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sm1550
Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:49 pm
#30






Airleas wrote:

/confused ummmmmmm you just lost me there.... I got bored half way through. Sorry.








honestly doesn't surprise me.

Airleas
Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:55 pm
#31


Yeah .... it was non-sense, wasn't it?



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cahn-a-licious
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:54 am
#32

heres a point no one has mentioned.....


if the new ai changes dramatically effect hi end mobs what the hell are we gonna do when no one can kill the new content on mustafar? it is logical to think that most everything will be as hard as necrosis or at minimum harder than krayts....what then? the powergaming groups and guilds will be the only ones to enjoy it.





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i used to be 4 accts out of 450k active accts
then 2 accts out of 250k
then 1 out of 200k
now 0 of 175k as of dec 25th....
i am a soe shareholder and do know how many active accts there are.
Lokanai
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:56 am
#33






Airleas wrote:

I really like the new changes. It is going to make the game more of a challenge and, honestly, more fun. It will take away a lot of afk camping and mindless farming. The snares are not so fun, but we will all learn how to deal with it. Nice job, SOE.





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Scoooter
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:12 am
#34

I am all for pub 24 and making the game harder


EXCEPT


The snare changes


Jedi or not Jedi a Novice level debuff skill should never, repeat never negate 100% a tier 4 or master level buff


Root in the game was always a pain, but at least snare you could counter. As it stands today snare is an "I win" button in pvp in ranged vs melee





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cahn-a-licious
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:19 am
#35

i wanna hear about the first group of 8 defenders to kill a new lvl 90 djm....cuz that is the only group that stands a chance. i just went and wacked around one of these for 37-45 seconds and could not do enuff dmg to offset its heal regen.....i am dreading what mustafar hi end content will be like. i have a 700plus max dmg saber, ai activated to be able to just lay on the offense, sl buffs for double time and hi yield and yet i could not get it down to a killable lvl. maybe with 7 defenders laying the wood to these guys you could get it down in about 10 mins but by then someone or several are out of force.



Keed-Jedi
Cahn-not
I am a SOE customer. Now, if they would only treat me like one...
i used to be 4 accts out of 450k active accts
then 2 accts out of 250k
then 1 out of 200k
now 0 of 175k as of dec 25th....
i am a soe shareholder and do know how many active accts there are.
Nurse25
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:22 am
#36






rifro wrote:

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I HATE THIS GAME I"M QUITTING!!!!


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!


woot woot pub 24 rocks






Well you know what they say " THERE IS ONE BORN EVERY MINUTE" ....


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n0ahg
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:30 am
#37



Airleas wrote:



They added the Geo Caves, Corvette and DWB without charging us for an expansion, so its not like i'm coming out of left field here.

and anyway, w.t.f. do you mean 'free'? somehow I think I pay $15/month per account. If all of that is going to running the servers and not paying devs to fix loot drops and add a bit of content, then w.t.f. is it being spent on?

I think they need to fix the **edit**ing loot tables if they are going to increase the difficulty of all the mobs. I'm sick of killing things and getting complete and utter crap for my efforts. I welcome more difficult fights, but make the rewards worthwhile. I don't expect anything for free, but I damn well expect something decent for my $15/month per account.

Message Edited by sm1550 on 10-20-200502:26 AM


Yes they did, but those were to planets already in the game. From what I have heard/experienced Mustafar is a new planet with several high level dungeons and quests. That is what you are paying for .... your $14.99 probably goes to staff pay, staff insurance, server upkeep, etc. relating to running a business.
I don't know what it is like on your server, but on Gorath there are a ton of jedi. I honestly think that the absence of premium/flawless pearls and crystals is simply jedi population control. I know that sucks, but that is how I see it. I think they are going to eventually increase drop rate and quality after this expansion. My opinion, but that is how I see it.





As a jedi you aren't able to experiance any of the content without gaining vis
BH by any chance?
Atanmir
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:35 am
#38






cahn-a-licious wrote:
i wanna hear about the first group of 8 defenders to kill a new lvl 90 djm....cuz that is the only group that stands a chance. i just went and wacked around one of these for 37-45 seconds and could not do enuff dmg to offset its heal regen.....i am dreading what mustafar hi end content will be like. i have a 700plus max dmg saber, ai activated to be able to just lay on the offense, sl buffs for double time and hi yield and yet i could not get it down to a killable lvl. maybe with 7 defenders laying the wood to these guys you could get it down in about 10 mins but by then someone or several are out of force.






Lol

You have no clue what a group can actually acomplish without a the most underpowerd professin in game.

On beta i was in groups killing well over your djm gold lvl 90 with no jedi around and it wasn't that hard.

bviusly the promel is that now you need group so you cannot farm all the +25 tapes for you, but you will have to share.

Mustafar high lvl content wil be hard, you will not be able to solo from begin to end with a jedi so try to get friends.





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triggerr
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:45 am
#39






Airleas wrote:





triggerr wrote:


If they are even remotly serious about this publish, thenthey need to kill the jedi xp loss. Simple as that!




How would that help?






Well, atleast it would give us some trial an error with BH without losing XP in the process. This will maybe help us figure out a way to counter all the new changes without losing masive amounts of XP.
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