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Thread: MLS or MDEF

shadowdragon2k
Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:52 pm
#27


ok im going to do a rare thing and actually help a jedi in public (what is the world comeing to :smileytongue go Msabers due to the fact that gives you 3 differnt powerful attacks that arent on the same timer as well as dervish. not only that but it gives a certin offensive advantage. with Def 4440 your not missing out on much defence not really but with sabers 0444 your missing out on quiet a bit of offense any Master sabers that know what they are doing will beat a Mdef/sabers 0444 JUST because of the fact they have an extra KD.


as an example 2 templates Msaber's/def 4440/healer 4000/enhancer 3002 Vs a Mdef/sabers 0444/healer 4000/enhancer 3002, both with suppresion both with force run both with equal healing abillities the differnce is one has a Knock down. now it may not seem much but if the msaber gets into any trouble he only needs to move out say 10m and root you if you root back that extra Kd will delay you enogth for one of 3 things to happen either the root break's. he throws another Saberthrow dealing exrta damage due to KD statis or you needing to hit Kdrecover has given him enogth time to heal.


and finally in benifits to lag EVERYONE i mean EVERYONE hates spamming Kdrecover while lagging out it will give you a distinct advantage's at times due to them just lagging out (and i dont mean anything like a KD bug)


also in responce's to AI. its to easily worked around. /root run out a few m /saberthrow (with KD) and just keep doing that till AI wear's off then move in for a kill


oh with regards to PVP. you have NO idea how useful an AOE can be at times. specially dureing PVP its so great to just spam 2 AOE's andhelp all your teammates in the surounding area

Message Edited by shadowdragon2k on 10-08-2005 04:54 PM




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heapum
Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:56 pm
#28

Depends. MLS has a 200 to 300 tick bleed, power attack, head/body/leg hits, dirvish, spin attack, two KDs, saber throw, and all the state effects. That variaty of specials in MLS'es power. just make sure to use it all for maximum effect.


Defender just soaks up the damage. My Bro is MLS while I am Mdef and we match up against each other blow for blow and one damage point difference between our base attack. You can go both routes MLS or Mdef as long as you have the essential skills to survive with that template.

imhigh2
Sat Oct 08, 2005 5:44 pm
#29

I'm a master defender/ls 4404and will say this, I hit fast! so fast in fact that using a booster blue and action food i run out of action so fast it's almost stupid. I will say I am capped in gen melee spd/acc and capped in ls spd/acc and have a 698 mod dps, 709 max dam1h saber, so that has a lot to do with it. The only advantage mls has over anyone is one on one pvp, because of just how fast they hit, with aura foods stims and everything else, if a mls has a saber in the 700's I'll will die fast. But group pvp,I'mat the front lines, I can tank anything, 111 guys, djm's, krayts are easy. If the they turn the frs back on and it's pvp again, then I might go mls, but untill then this is fun. Mdef/ls 4404/ healer 4000/enhancer 3002



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Stuyf
Sat Oct 08, 2005 5:58 pm
#30



MasterMith wrote:

Can anyone tell me why MLS is better than MDef....at least when you compare it this way:

mdef, ls -444

mls, def 444-

I just don't understand., I only hit slightly faster, but i take alot more damage. I did a test with a buddy and we have very comparable sabers,

AS a Mdef I would have 627 dmage for a power hit, no aura or foods

As a MLS and DEF 4440 he would get 750points of damage.

I am not sure if my testing is vailid but it seems MLS is still not good






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Skwall
Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:45 am
#31






DW-Acer wrote:

no one ever killed a BH with MDef.


want my very simplistic approach?


PvP=MLS, PvE=MDef





Most people still don't understand that MLS is a waste of skillpoints given their saber and the SEAs they have..the only useful thing you miss at MLS is Saberthrow 3 that does great damage and KDs your opponenet giving you a very nice combo. Other than that, you're missing out on some Speed/Accuracy (DPS means nothing) but can easily be reproduced through SEAs.


Also, if you dablle in Enhancer at all, picking up forcepseed 2 would greatly lower the speed. Its all in the diminishing returns formula, you can also reproduce some of Defender w/ Force Armor dabbling but you'll have your force consumed and most of it negated after Armor Break.


Message Edited by Skwall on 10-08-200512:51 PM

Message Edited by Skwall on 10-08-2005 12:51 PM



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