Jedi Archive
Thread: Regarding To Jedi get balanced in the game. Forguete 1.5x, We will be even Period.
built2shred
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:34 pm
#27
WookieOgre wrote:
Your wrong and I can answer that question about how many publishes, a whole ONE....UNO.....1. That's how many publishes were dedicated to the Jedi profession.
Publish 9: Secrets of the Force
Publish 10: The Jedi Trials
Show me another publish that was dedicated to any other combatprofession? Ya thats what I thought...
Your just pissed because the Dev's wont make you ubber.... If you guys had half a brain you would try and meet the Dev's half way.. You were powerful and instead of tweaking Perma Death so it was more fair you guys went into rants on how you wanted it removed PERIOD. You want to be ubber but at the same time want to be normal when it comesto penalties applied to you when you die...
Message Edited by built2shred on 10-12-2005 01:37 PM
WookieOgre
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:41 pm
#28
built2shred wrote:
WookieOgre wrote:
Your wrong and I can answer that question about how many publishes, a whole ONE....UNO.....1. That's how many publishes were dedicated to the Jedi profession.
Publish 9: Secrets of the Force
Publish 10: The Jedi Trials
Show me another publish that was dedicated to any other combatprofession? Ya thats what I thought...
The highlighted is NOT I repeat NOT a Jedi profession publish. It was quests that ANY profession can do.....heck are you saying RoTW expansion was a profession publish? That is exactly what it was, quests that any profession can do to get rewards....wow sound familar. The village did not do anythingfor Jedi except give a means to grind to unlock Jedi.....all the time was dedicated to the quests which was for all players. Don't say it was a Jedi profession publish when it wasn't.
CH has had 2 revamps, that is one more than Jedi. Everyone else is equal with the exception of professions like Commando which has never really be revamped at all.
Ikict
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:49 pm
#29
built2shred wrote:
Your just pissed because the Dev's wont make you ubber.... If you guys had half a brain you would try and meet the Dev's half way.. You were powerful and instead of tweaking Perma Death so it was more fair you guys went into rants on how you wanted it removed PERIOD. You want to be ubber but at the same time want to be normal when it comesto penalties applied to you when you die...
Message Edited by built2shred on 10-12-2005 01:37 PM
Meeting the devs 10/90 would be good enough, but alas they will not comprimise
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:57 pm
#30
built2shred wrote:
WookieOgre wrote:
Your wrong and I can answer that question about how many publishes, a whole ONE....UNO.....1. That's how many publishes were dedicated to the Jedi profession.
Publish 9: Secrets of the Force Jedi Publish
Publish 10: The Jedi Trials Publish on how to become a Jedi, which by definition is NOT a Jedi publish. Any one can go through these trials.
Show me another publish that was dedicated to any other combatprofession? Ya thats what I thought...
Your just pissed because the Dev's wont make you ubber.... If you guys had half a brain you would try and meet the Dev's half way.. You were powerful and instead of tweaking Perma Death so it was more fair you guys went into rants on how you wanted it removed PERIOD. You want to be ubber but at the same time want to be normal when it comesto penalties applied to you when you die...
Message Edited by built2shred on 10-12-2005 01:37 PM
Usually counting to 1 isn't a problem for most sentient beings.
Defend0r
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:59 pm
#31
acmtalk wrote:
OK, many Posts talking about How Unfair it is, bla bla bla. Its Well known That The Devs Are balancing Jedi to Regular professions.
What many people dont understand IS that The Game Needed balanceNow with the new heal changes, It will be more balanced. I still don't like The Debuffs changes, But I am sure they will have to work something out.
Get over it guys. Its not the dev's intention for us, to be 1.5x stronger.
Rewards?:
A lightsaber, a robe, The feeling of Jedi, And a 2nd account free.
Did we work hard for it? Yes
Does it give us the right to unbalance the game and Ruin it? No
Get over it, Play andhave fun.
Totally agree, prepare to have your post deleted its seems any post that supports balancing Jedi into the combat system is deleted. Why....who knows, SOE leaves the posts completely trashing them up and removes posts supporting the balance decisions..../shrug. They must like pain or something.
Defend0r - Master Defender before Master Defend0r was cool.
mtnsurfer
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:42 pm
#32
acmtalk wrote:
EP3 , Most all of the Jedi, Died by the clone troopers.
Not sure if you remember, but the jedi were shot in the back by the Troopers. Also, the little padawans at the temple were killing troopers and holding thier own for a bit.
Anyway,Jedi is a powerful class, it is suppose to be a powerful class. The only way to really balance the jedi is to make them have restrictions. The number one complaint about jedi is with balance and PVP. To fix this Jedi should only be allowed to attack other Jedi in PVP. This will keep the power and balance in line for the PVP aspect of the game. If you want to attack more people, then you can use the second character slot SOE gave you.
Jedi should be able to group in PVE and be allowed to attack any mobs. That would be the benefit of group as a whole and not really a balance issue.
BH missions, I hategetting killed by one, but I love the aspect. I think BH should be allowed to group based on the level of the jedi that is the mark.If the jedi is a low level jedi, then only one BH at a time ....... I also think Jedi should be able to get oposing faction jedi missions (could be a greifing tool, it is just an idea).
And for all those that are so stuck on what is in themovies. Tell me how many imperialJedi are there? Vader, Emporer, anyone else. Now I can understand dark side, light side, but I don't think they were ever associated with factions. But I could always be wrong.
ViciousTongue
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:45 pm
#33
built2shred wrote:
Look, we as JEDI have gotten more NERF's then FIX's thats what anger many
Umm Ranger, Squad Leader been broke since the game launched... Commando worked at the beginning when the game came out then got nerfed few months later and has been broke since them. You guys have gotten more attention then any other proffesion, dont know how many publishs were just for you guys, yet you still want to cry about every little thing.Sorry you get no sympathy from me..If you guys truely wanted to be ubber you should of let the Dev's keep Perma Death, then you could of been 3x stronger... What you should of done was ask that Perma Death only applyt when a BH killed you and made it so PvE deaths would be normal clone deaths.. Now that would of been a good compromise and you guys could of stayed the Alpha Profession... But to whine that you want to be stronger then the other professions YET have no consequences for being so. And don't say this crap bout XP lost, 30 mins with a spin group and you get the xp back and plus some...Message Edited by built2shred on 10-12-2005 01:20 PM
You dont get it. Mature, level headed Jedi players want one thing. A balanced, WORKING profesion. And, if you're not an complete idiot.. thats what every profession wants.
It was stated that FULL template PADAWAN are to be aprox 1.5 times stronger than CL80 professions. Currently we are even, at best. So, we arent crying to be "uber" we just want what was promised to us FIVE months ago.
What i hate is people who pop into the Jedi forum and tell us to shut up. Sorry, this forum says JEDI on it for a reason. The reason we complain in here, is because THIS IS OUR FORUM. This is the place where we discuss JEDI. If you cant handle it, then YOU should get out of HERE..not the other way around.
Gorthu
Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:02 pm
#34
I just want an EQUAL chance at winning based on the number of BH that can attack me at one time. So if they want to let 5 bh attack me at once, I want an EQUAL chance at winning or escaping. Right now, they keep nerfing any skill that allows escape. The excuse of "it's a fix" is crap. It's nerfing. I don't want an "I WIN" button...but then, I don't want "I LOSE" button either. The "timeline" was only good the day SWG opened. After that, the timeline becomes whatever the players make it. And for the argument that the force is finite.....that's crapalso. No where is the force seen as a FINITE resource. But then, SOE may claim that is now the case. SOE is great for doing the illogical.
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:07 pm
#35
If you're going to take that tact, every Jedi and Force Sensitive in the movies were related to the factions in all the movies Ep 1-6. There weren't any neutral Jedi floating around out there. Republic vs Trade Federation, all force weilders were aligned. Republic vs Separatists, Same deal. Rebel vs Imperial, same thing.
mtnsurfer wrote:
And for all those that are so stuck on what is in themovies. Tell me how many imperialJedi are there? Vader, Emporer, anyone else. Now I can understand dark side, light side, but I don't think they were ever associated with factions. But I could always be wrong.
RebelArchAngel
Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:11 pm
#36
Ikict wrote:
if Jedi isnt supposed to be more than a bit better than a regular profession then why is there a 33x longer grind than other profession? and a lot more risk than other professions.
not to mention the FS, which has been calculated toLARGER than the jedi grind rofl... its an insane grind that has u grind ur 2 and a half mastyer regular template over 10 (maybe even 20 or more) times over
tib-infinity
Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:12 pm
#37
acmtalk wrote:OK, many Posts talking about How Unfair it is, bla bla bla. Its Well known That The Devs Are balancing Jedi to Regular professions.What many people dont understand IS that The Game Needed balanceGet over it guys. Its not the dev's intention for us, to be 1.5x stronger.Rewards?:A lightsaber, a robe, The feeling of Jedi, And a 2nd account free.Did we work hard for it? YesDoes it give us the right to unbalance the game and Ruin it? NoGet over it, Play and have fun.
i take it you have just unlocked.
well done.
now crawl back intot he hole you came froma nd realis ethat jedi now is a joke.
no benefits for killign bh or other jedi but all the penalties - how is that fair?
BH now the most overpowered prfoession int he game - the same reason jedi was nerfed because it was too powerful.
CU needs to be redone again from scratch it was bodged and rushed.
Nastypope
Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:17 pm
#38
Yeah but not under normal ways it was all back stabing, Oh yeah and soe did lie to us big time and still are.
GrupertRHD
Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:29 pm
#39
ViciousTongue wrote:
built2shred wrote:
Look, we as JEDI have gotten more NERF's then FIX's thats what anger many
Umm Ranger, Squad Leader been broke since the game launched... Commando worked at the beginning when the game came out then got nerfed few months later and has been broke since them. You guys have gotten more attention then any other proffesion, dont know how many publishs were just for you guys, yet you still want to cry about every little thing.Sorry you get no sympathy from me..If you guys truely wanted to be ubber you should of let the Dev's keep Perma Death, then you could of been 3x stronger... What you should of done was ask that Perma Death only applyt when a BH killed you and made it so PvE deaths would be normal clone deaths.. Now that would of been a good compromise and you guys could of stayed the Alpha Profession... But to whine that you want to be stronger then the other professions YET have no consequences for being so. And don't say this crap bout XP lost, 30 mins with a spin group and you get the xp back and plus some...Message Edited by built2shred on 10-12-2005 01:20 PM
You dont get it. Mature, level headed Jedi players want one thing. A balanced, WORKING profesion. And, if you're not an complete idiot.. thats what every profession wants.
It was stated that FULL template PADAWAN are to be aprox 1.5 times stronger than CL80 professions. Currently we are even, at best. So, we arent crying to be "uber" we just want what was promised to us FIVE months ago.
What i hate is people who pop into the Jedi forum and tell us to shut up. Sorry, this forum says JEDI on it for a reason. The reason we complain in here, is because THIS IS OUR FORUM. This is the place where we discuss JEDI. If you cant handle it, then YOU should get out of HERE..not the other way around.
Sorry, this is NOT a jedi only forum. What SOE does to jedi will have an effect on non jedi, therefore, non jedi have as much right to post here as does jedi.
If someone wants to rag on jedi, they have every right to. Don't like it then pay their monthly bill to SOE.