Jedi Archive

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if that is true, then soe lied to us again at the beginning of the cu with thestatement on record of a full templated padawan will be 1.5 times stronger as a regular proffesion....we should have asked then their definition of 1.5 times stronger than what?

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It's the only natural progression. Making jedi so common and easy to grind should logically come with them becoming weaker. The jedi community has reaped what they sown.

In SWG, imagine the force as a finite amount of energy. Every new jedi means all the others are slightly weaker.

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built2shred wrote:

Syllus wrote:

Here here, if they are going to make jedi completely even with other professions, then the grind should be about the same also.

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Cool with me, but if they make your grind the same as other professions then they need to remove your FREE 2nd account

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acmtalk wrote:

OK, many Posts talking about How Unfair it is, bla bla bla. Its Well known That The Devs Are balancing Jedi to Regular professions.

What many people dont understand IS that The Game Needed balance Now with the new heal changes, It will be more balanced. I still don't like The Debuffs changes, But I am sure they will have to work something out.

Get over it guys. Its not the dev's intention for us, to be 1.5x stronger.

Rewards?:

A lightsaber, a robe, The feeling of Jedi, And a 2nd account free.

Did we work hard for it? Yes

Does it give us the right to unbalance the game and Ruin it? No

Get over it, Play andhave fun.

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lol, at this point I just want to be equal. ATM with these nerfs Melee in general will be the redheaded step child of this game....that includes Jedi.

Right now on live there is nothing unbalancing about Jedi with the exception of Cloak (which has been stated is going to be removed basically). Saying the current nerfs are coming because Jedi is 1.5x more powerful than a normal toon in PvP is crazy.

BH get first strike, BH's will have full SL buffs before attacking (or a SL themselves). Jedi will no longer be able to run. Most people are not asking to be 1.5x at this point, what we are asking for is some balance so we are not one shot to death or perma snared.

Message Edited by built2shred on 10-12-2005 01:20 PM

I am sorry guys - i started this game on day 1 because i enjoy the star wars universe - i think it's cool to play a video game - and always remember this is a video game - where i can go and see things and talk to characters that i have read in the books and seen in movies - to me this is more fun than completely new fantasy - in the beggining it was advertised that you could become a jedi but it would be very difficult to achieve and it was never released what had to be done to unlock - i didn't care if it took me a year to unlock - once it was known about the profession grind i went to work and got to see and play all parts of this game as i ground out multiple professions - but all i ever wanted was jedi - WHY????? - because they are supposed to be the wisest, most powerfull characters in the galaxy - the books and extended universe suggest that the force gives itself to a select few to be the ultimate defenders of the universe. Now a video game would be no fun at all if 1 profession was completely unstopable, undefeatable - so fine i don't want to be 20 times more powerfull, it's not like i walk in totown and start wasting every character there - at the end of the day it is duel - accept duel still correct??- 1.5 times makes sense to me - i know i can defeat pretty much anyone nowexcept an experienced BH with proper foods, specfial weaponsand buffs - that is fun - but what i cherish now about the game is theHELP i provide to any group i join - i would love some jedi specific content so i can play on my own from time to time (like a jedi terminal or something)

The bulk of people who purchase this game do so to become a jedi - fine - make them play a year as i did to unlock and another 6 months to grind out the powers - but by god once you have them i better be the toughest freekin player in the game!!! Send bh's at me 2 at a time, fine - that is fun - but you have never read or seen a jedi in any book or movie who had combat skills taken down by a single person - I have a new friend who bought the game - 3 weeks later was in the village and now has only 4.5 months to work through the phases to unlock - to me the power of the jedi is not the question here - we should be more powerfull than the others - the reason why there are so many and thus the feeling that the game is unbalanced is they have droped the ball on the work it should take to become a jedi. But 2 late for that now i guess.

If jedi become same as a master rifleman then increase pearl/crystal drops to come from every npc in the game - i hate the fact that my saber cost me close to 40 million to get it the way i have it now - and no special resources that allow artisans to charge outrageous amounts so i can craft a saber as cheap as any other weapon costs - oh and while your at it you can have my account as well because you have just gutted me of all my desire to play this video game. I have done all the other porfessions, climbing the knight ranks is the last thing for me to do now. And if i make it high in that section of the game - it's not about my but whooping every one i come accross just to prove i am powerfull - it's about saying " hey - i am a Jedi - use my power - I will be a powerfull ally to your cause"

But then again - mabey this is what they are trying to do with the game - frustrate most of the jedi to quite - change the work requirements and back to square 1 again. Jedi should be few - but powerfull.

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built2shred wrote:

Look, we as JEDI have gotten more NERF's then FIX's thats what anger many

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Umm Ranger, Squad Leader been broke since the game launched... Commando worked at the beginning when the game came out then got nerfed few months later and has been broke since them. You guys have gotten more attention then any other proffesion, dont know how many publishs were just for you guys, yet you still want to cry about every little thing.

Sorry you get no sympathy from me..

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Your wrong and I can answer that question about how many publishes, a whole ONE....UNO.....1. That's how many publishes were dedicated to the Jedi profession. Many like to claim Jedi has sucked all the dev time.....rofl Village does not equal Jedi profession.

We get no sympathy because everyone has been brainwashed to hate Jedi. The actual smart players with something against Jedi make good arguments such as a need for balance. Arguements like yours that say we sucked all the dev time up is very ignorant of the facts.

This is just another rumor in a long line of rumors. The fact is, no one knows what the future is. You are soooo wrapped up in your own problems, and your own loss, you fail to look at the bigger picture. Maybe, just maybe, it was never intended for a PADAWAN to be that powerful. Maybe that is something that will be fixed in the FRS, if and when it comes out. Since we have no information on that either, no one in this forum has enough information to provide any useful insite. So, I would suggest that you all take your blood pressure medicine, strattera, paxil, valum or whatever it is you take, and just relax until you have more information.

Jedi have hadquite abit of attention from many publishes,Although they weremostly nerfs.

Message Edited by Ikict on 10-12-2005 01:25 PM

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Jedi_Xan wrote:

This is just another rumor in a long line of rumors. The fact is, no one knows what the future is. You are soooo wrapped up in your own problems, and your own loss, you fail to look at the bigger picture. Maybe, just maybe, it was never intended for a PADAWAN to be that powerful. Maybe that is something that will be fixed in the FRS, if and when it comes out. Since we have no information on that either, no one in this forum has enough information to provide any useful insite. So, I would suggest that you all take your blood pressure medicine, strattera, paxil, valum or whatever it is you take, and just relax until you have more information.

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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:

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Jedi_Xan wrote:

This is just another rumor in a long line of rumors. The fact is, no one knows what the future is. You are soooo wrapped up in your own problems, and your own loss, you fail to look at the bigger picture. Maybe, just maybe, it was never intended for a PADAWAN to be that powerful. Maybe that is something that will be fixed in the FRS, if and when it comes out. Since we have no information on that either, no one in this forum has enough information to provide any useful insite. So, I would suggest that you all take your blood pressure medicine, strattera, paxil, valum or whatever it is you take, and just relax until you have more information.

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SonG reported during the CU "testing" that fully templated Jedi were intended to be 1.5 times as powerful. The Dev's would have corrected him quick-like if he were incorrect.

And as far as waiting for the FRS, how long has it been disabled? What's the ETA for it's return again? Truth is, it may NEVER been implemented. Considering how long it's been gone and we know somewhere between jack and squat about the plans for the FRS, that's as fair a guess as any. So waiting for something that some day in the future might show up to alleviate legitimate concerns about the game is, well, naive in my opinion.

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The FRS is like a burglar alarm. The devs turned it offwhen they went out andJedi are there paranoia trying to remind them.

The only problem with relaxing until we get more information is that it costs a monthly account and the purchase of these upgrades so you can go and play and see the new stuff - that is where the fun is - and after they have emptied your pockest of real cash there is still NO!!!!!! info on any new FRS or any vision at all about Jedi - i have been focused on jedi because that is my sole profession now- but this is a good question for all professions - what is SOE's vision for that profession???

Would you invest in a company if you never knew it's Vision/Goals?? Would you work for a company that kept completely silent about your ability to climb the ladder and try to make a career for yourself?? As a business plan SOE should give us this info you say we should hold out for - and not after i have paid another 50, 60, 100 bucks because I will spend that money on some other game to play and then how does SOE's business plan look???