Jedi Archive
Thread: My Jedi on BETA vs two different BH's
Oh and btw, I'm not that too familar with the SL changes although I know they help offensive and defensively. Maybe someone could help me out.
What I have read is having more than one SL in your group will have the buffs stack. How much do they stack I have no idea (maybe someone can comment about this) but what I do know is if a little BH group gets together to kill some Jedi I can see 2 SL grouped with a single BH (may or may not be a SL himself). Before the fight all the buffs go on the BH and then I think you'll have your "i win" button finally. Funny, I've been a Jedi for a really long time and I can't ever remember being able to just press a button once and bam, I win.
That would have been all she wrote for my little Mon-C. 2900 health is all we get on a good day.
WookieOgre wrote:
BH does Sniper Shot 2900 damage after armor/Aura.
Basically on live if my health was at all down it would have been a one hit incap.
MajesticJester wrote:testing jedi with items that are impossible to get in the curent game is stupidmight as well give everyone pre-cu 90% armour and with a armour break slice, you get the same results lolcant test blance with items that are not availabe (pvp or pve)
To be fair, many of the weapons the BH are using are maxed out for testing purpose only. But, with all the super powered loot dropping, there are some pretty comparable weapons out there
Heck on my galaxy forum there is a HLR with 528min damage
JediAsh wrote:
Someone replied to a statement reguarding the SL buffs by saying you can just use the SL defense buffs.
I mentioned that anytime you NEED to either have/be a particular profession for PvP, something is wrong.
And I feel bad for the SL, they're getting all these cool things, and I just see them getting nerf'd into oblivion.
Im a BH and that pisses me off!
I hunt jedi for the challenge. If I had my way, thered be no XP loss. If they screw things up as bad as your saying then no more BH for me. I like to feel I acomplished something when I fight.
CURBhater wrote:
I can see it infront of me,new FOTM MLS/Msquadleader or Mdef/Msquadleader lol
I seriously wonder if anybody in the Jedi community is actually bothering to test that template. And if they are thenI wonder if they arefixating only on the offensive capabilties or also exploring the possible defenses. I would be quite interested in hearing that feedback. With hard numbers, of course.
cpotter13 wrote:
yeah, because the devs historically listen really well to the community.....Like during the CU beta, and on TC. The voices in the forums were shrugged off as the vocal minority. Those kind of practices do not promote proper testing and feedback. The people who put a lot of time and effort into testing the CU and giving their honest feedback were hushed with poor reasoning and excuses.
Message Edited by cpotter13 on 10-16-2005 02:16 AM
Darth_Sushi wrote:
I can see where y'all would be worried, but I still have yet to see any example of what happens when the target is using all available defensive buffs like Toughen along withTactics or Call to Arms. There's a lot more going on here than just amping up a MBH/MRifle's ability to useSniper Shot. It's easy to scream unbalance and nerf when you're only seeing one side of the fight or just looking at half of the picture.
The devs are continuing the revisit and adjust all aspects of this design throughout the beta process. Yesterday, the Called Shot + Sniper Shot combo got a downwardadjustment, and today the multiple group buff bug was fixed. I have said it eleswhere and I will restate it here - if I was a Jedi, instead of sreaming fornerfs and threatening to quitI'd be on TC helping to test Squad Leader right now and be posting lots and lots of feedback with plenty of hard numbers from the logs.
Thanks for your concern and continued support.
Don't get me wrong, I know if a Jedi has a Defensive buff it counters the offensive. My point was are you really saying every Jedi can not walk around unless a SL is with them 24/7? Jedi do not choose when and where to fight, the BH does.
Also as I said, I think these buffs are actually very nice...in PvP battles. Dueling, sorry with one person having them and the other does not it's unbalanced. It's one thing to have some noob who doesn't ahve the proper foods but it's another to say you NEED certain buffs on at all times from another player or you will die.
IMO when a BH TEF starts, SL buffs should be negated instantly. That means any buffs on the BH should not work and any buffs from the Jedi should not work. That's truely the only way I can see this becoming balanced while letting Squad Leaders retain some usefulness. I fear if it goes live as is and makes being Jedi a joke, how long do you give it before a justified nerf call finally convinces the devs.
Btw, I was not really complaining about the Snipershot(this is after the suposed adjustment to it btw, still way overpowered with SL buffs)as much as the fact the guy was hitting my Master Defender player for 1.5k with a Critical and 1.1k with an alternatingspecial. That is unfair. People complained about the damage I do with a perfect saber rofl, I was hitting this guy with AB for 800 damage and just over 1k while k/d........but to even reach his lowest daamge I had to k/d him.
BooleScaric wrote:
WookieOgre wrote:
many
why didnt you used valor?
Valid question, personally I wanted to see if I could beat him without it. After looking at the logs I don't think I blocked really any of his shots anyways. Just like I didn't use root, I didn't want to use Valor because I know most Jedi probably don't have it. I know the most popular templates are ones with 444x Defender or 4x4x Defender.
I'll use valor the next time though. But seeing how he was hitting me for 1.5k on a Critical, it stil would have been tough to win.