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Thread: how efferctive is force armor 2 in comparison to master defender

Theonedi
Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:51 am
#27

FA = ouch on the force


Def = static def = good on the force





YaWanna
Flamesfan
Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:11 am
#28

what about 4440 defender instead of 4040 def and with FA2, is that a big diffrence??




Kalmah
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Flamesfan
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:06 am
#29






RogueLeader7 wrote:





Flamesfan wrote:

what about 4440 defender instead of 4040 def and with FA2, is that a big diffrence??







That will give you a 5400 innate armour rating, against the 8200 that Def 4x4x with FA2 would give or the 7000 from MDef. Have to say that difference is noticable whent tanking - the 444x variety (my mate has this temp whos account i play on) can tank up to 81 pretty comfortably, 82s can hit quite hard in spin groups, but has nice defenses for low force use, with still enough sp for things like supressions, FR, channel etc. My own personal toon is the 4x4x + FA2 variety, i love it, can tank an 82 lair no problems, hold my own against any high end pve in the game, and it owns for duels/head to head fight. Only time you'll really hate the force drain is if you get ganked in pvp- but by then you'll probably be dead with any template. Provided you channel when approproate and manage your force properly, i personally prefer the 4x4x + FA2 template.





yeah but in pvp i dont think the diffrence is that muc, what i remember from the other day when me and a friend did some testing, with only 4040 and aura he hit me for like 876 with AB, and when i put on FA2 it was like 800m so only a diffrence for 10% in dmg, im not sure if the attach was 876 or 911, but that was only wth 4040 and with the extra 12innate i think i can go down a little more


either FA is bugged in some way and AB reduce almost all of it, or it dosent make that much diffrent when stacking it






Kalmah
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RogueLeader7
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:19 am
#30

Well armour break kills 75% of your armour rating, which makes those figures look about right to me. Armour break will nullify any armour combos you have at the moment, you're going to be hurting any way you look at it.



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Flamesfan
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:25 am
#31






RogueLeader7 wrote:
Well armour break kills 75% of your armour rating, which makes those figures look about right to me. Armour break will nullify any armour combos you have at the moment, you're going to be hurting any way you look at it.




yeah true, im gonna stay with the 4040 FA combo for a while, and if i dont like it im gonna try out 4440defender instead and see how that works




Kalmah
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master_finesse
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:31 am
#32



Thats obviously even better than Def 0040 / Enh x4x2, but I dont have enough skill points for it. There is a reason the current FOTM is MLS / Enh 3402 / Def 4040 / Heal 4000





I'm doing the same thing with MPowers in place of MLS but I'm a glutton for punishment. Powers sucks. An thats describing the good parts.


Good Luck


scoodoobydoo
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:37 am
#33




here is the armor chart


read it and learn



rofl Knowledge is power! rofl..


armor value / actual percent damage reduction

1000 = 10.5%
2000 = 20.0%
3000 = 28.5%
4000 = 36.0%
5000 = 42.5%
6000 = 48.0%
7000 = 52.5%
8000 = 56.0%
9000 = 58.5%
10000 = 60%



here is the armor chart




no armor % doesnt cap at 7k whoever thinks that is a dumba$$ but dang 52.5 at 7k compared to 60% at 10k



diminishing returns makes force armor 2 a waste with mdef


however i have heard from mdefs the complain thatarmor break rbings your 7k down to a very lame like 2.8k


now 2.8k is crap now u see as a person without defender u would like 0 like only 5% after ar break so


iduno you figure out howmuch armor you want


4040 defender ( 4200 ) 3402 enhancer ( 4000 from FA 2 ) mls 4000 healer i do alright...




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scoodoobydoo
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:39 am
#34

Well armour break kills 75%

QFE



ohk so if u didnt have defender and got armor breaked u would have


5 innate thats like 5% innate wow that sucks badly..



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scoodoobydoo
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:40 am
#35


unless you want to be mdef 5400 is like the point where diminishing returns get crappy


so 5400 armor ftw



iduno you figure out howmuch armor you want


4040 defender ( 4200 ) 3402 enhancer ( 4000 from FA 2 ) mls 4000 healer i do alright...


Message Edited by scoodoobydoo on 09-30-2005 03:41 AM



" jedi should be hard because being a jedi is your reward shouldnt be able to mess around and have fun"
"well this is a game for fun messing around is fun and if your that much of a
pr!ck irl you need to get laid"

"I am Scissors, Paper is fine, but Rock needs to be balanced"

Be careful... remember when Tiggs and Thunderheart acknowledged the pearl drop problem with premium / flawless? Look what came out of that one. *Can't fix it.. so you screw you guys
Red-Dude
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:42 am
#36

ok i know this has nothing to do with this but whats the difference bettween 1 hand and 2 hand saber besides the skills



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scoodoobydoo
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:49 am
#37

you hold a lightsaber with one hand and your reckless fancy showing off and the other u hold it with two hands your are defensive keep it in front of you angle it to block


but the real difference ?? twohanded is the only tree with armor break makeing it the favorite


what is armor break ?? uhm it breaks theyre armor makeing it 75% less effective nice huh ?


there is a armor chart on one of my posts right above this

but seriously armor break is evil..





" jedi should be hard because being a jedi is your reward shouldnt be able to mess around and have fun"
"well this is a game for fun messing around is fun and if your that much of a
pr!ck irl you need to get laid"

"I am Scissors, Paper is fine, but Rock needs to be balanced"

Be careful... remember when Tiggs and Thunderheart acknowledged the pearl drop problem with premium / flawless? Look what came out of that one. *Can't fix it.. so you screw you guys
Red-Dude
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:56 am
#38

iv heard that 2 bladed is more powerfull but less accurrate and that 2 handed has its armorbreak but what dose 1 handed have nothing??is it a usless tree put thereby soe so peeps will grind i and then learn the sad truth that the tree nextto iis 10X better and that youve wasted 15 strait ours of your life (at the least)for crap curse u soe curse uuuu.....ok im done just had to let off some steam on soe for all the crap theyve forced us throu



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scoodoobydoo
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:59 am
#39

no dude dude do u have jedi yet ?



" jedi should be hard because being a jedi is your reward shouldnt be able to mess around and have fun"
"well this is a game for fun messing around is fun and if your that much of a
pr!ck irl you need to get laid"

"I am Scissors, Paper is fine, but Rock needs to be balanced"

Be careful... remember when Tiggs and Thunderheart acknowledged the pearl drop problem with premium / flawless? Look what came out of that one. *Can't fix it.. so you screw you guys
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