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Thread: STOP THE MADNESS CLOAK DOES NOT!! NEED A SNARE

Lumby_man
Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:25 am
#27






AllHandlestaken wrote:
Cloak is EXTREMELY overpowered and cannot be countered in any way. Any skill that is an automatic skill that can be used to get out of a fight at any time should never exist. Jedi are not rogues





Why should it be removed, so you can kill your bountys and make more money?

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fiav
Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:48 am
#28






xEPICx wrote:


Cloak needs a snare just as much as FR3 does.





Than all of you that were use to force suppession, FR3 and cloak will be rooted instead of chickening out of a fight.



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alephen
Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:56 am
#29


hmm, there were MANY powers jedi joining the calls for a snare with AI. are some of them getting nervous with the idea that their call for a nerf there has lead to this one? i do not blame this poster, for i do not know where he stood on the nerf AI calls. (bullmoose his former leader was vocal in calling for a nerf to defender though.) however, i would find it poetic justice to have cloak snare the user.




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KanyeW3ST
Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:27 am
#30






glim3mer wrote:





OzBlueBoy wrote:

See that's what happens when skills get abused, they get nerfed.







Exactly






You guys do realize that all the snare is gonna do is be an annoyance it serves no real purpose. And what should be the drawback of using stasis?




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OzBlueBoy
Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:29 am
#31






KanyeW3ST wrote:






glim3mer wrote:





OzBlueBoy wrote:

See that's what happens when skills get abused, they get nerfed.







Exactly






You guys do realize that all the snare is gonna do is be an annoyance it serves no real purpose. And what should be the drawback of using stasis?





Yeah an annoyance cause now all those that abused cloak in the Bunker, on the vette and any other place they were doing itcan't do it now because of the snare.



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ExewreDarkstar
Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:32 am
#32

i think it ll be easier to ask more nerf for other jedi proffession than remove the snare nerf on cloak


So lets nerf more ai stasis aura, force armor & innate armor plz...& also saber throw & the cost in force & action of ls skills.






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Usbek_Wokei
Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:00 am
#33

with a snare... cloak is not a "first strike abilitie".


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Jargal
Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:04 am
#34

I AGREE!!


Cloak doesnt need a snare - Add a ROOT instead!! Yes!






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raziviWH
Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:22 am
#35

Not a BH, never was. Not a jedi, possibly in future. Was Ranger/Carbineer. Turned Image Designer/Musician after Ranger changes were announced.


The changes to cloak that cause actions like opening boxes, healing, ect to decloak the jedi are the response to abuse of the skill, not the snare. Please stop using this as a reason, its depressing. Moving on. Snare, should it be on cloak: IMO, no.

BUT! Cloak should be greatly restricted in the skills a jedi can use while cloaked. The healing, using terminals/boxes, log-in/out, ect are a good example of things that should decloak jedi. Personally, I agree with several other posts from jedi and non-jedi that many of the current jedi abilities should break cloak as well, such as force run, any force regen or force transferingskills, force healing, and of course offensive skills.

Hear me out on this. Force cloak is a mind trick caused by focusing the force to distract a person or a number of people. By drawing on the force to do something else besides distract a person's mind, you break/lose your concentration on distraction, which IMO should cause cloak to break. Or at the very least cloak should be set up like mask scent, success checks with success being determined by the amount of Powers boxes you have and what other action/skills you are doing while cloaked.


Just another person's opinion.


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alephen
Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:08 am
#36






KanyeW3ST wrote:







alephen wrote:


(bullmoose his former leader was vocal in calling for a nerf to defender though.)




Bullmoose was never my leader he has been my arch nemesis since about day one on ahazi along with the other imps


See where it sucks next to V on my PA thing .




Message Edited by KanyeW3ST on 09-28-2005 06:06 PM




i apologize, i got your guild sig mixed with the FU-V- guild lol



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alephen
Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:13 am
#37






LuciferMullins wrote:

Ooh I love new players... Cloak can be countered by the following:



  1. Having a friend stay within 20m of the opposing Jedi.

  2. Having a droid or pet stay within 20m of the opposing Jedi.

  3. Having yourself stay within 20m of the opposing Jedi.

If you can't do this, well then perhaps you should rethink your choice of professions, or learn yours better. I dread the laughingother profsare doing/going to do. It's going to continueuntil something clicks in the dev's heads and goes: "Time to nerf another prof!"


Don't expect any sympathy on the nerf you guys get.





AllHandlestaken wrote:
Cloak is EXTREMELY overpowered and cannot be countered in any way. Any skill that is an automatic skill that can be used to get out of a fight at any time should never exist. Jedi are not rogues











due to lag it is virtually impossible tostay within 20m of someone according to the computer.



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Designed for those who relish personal combat, these robes offer good protection with no hindrance to movement.
alephen
Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:22 am
#38






ExewreDarkstar wrote:

i think it ll be easier to ask more nerf for other jedi proffession than remove the snare nerf on cloak


So lets nerf more ai stasis aura, force armor & innate armor plz...& also saber throw & the cost in force & action of ls skills.








this is very true. when AI was snared many powers jedi said, well the jedi is focusing all of his concentration on staying alive. if this is true, then a jedi would not be able to move fast while cloaked for the same reason. you have to perform this mind trick on EVERY player/NPCyou come near. so the faster you move the less time to do this. anyway, i am obviously bitter that jedi were some of the loudest AI whiners, so while i will not stoop to their level in crying for a nerf, i will certainly
point out that we told you that crying for jedi nerfs would come back to haunt them.


the history of SWG: whatever is the FotM will get nerfed until it is not the FotM. then the new Fotm will get nerfed until it is not the FotM, then the new FotM.....

eventually, they think this will cause balance, but if it isnt balanced after 2 years.......



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majorglory
Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:22 am
#39






AllHandlestaken wrote:
Cloak is EXTREMELY overpowered and cannot be countered in any way. Any skill that is an automatic skill that can be used to get out of a fight at any time should never exist. Jedi are not rogues





Exactly the type of comment that makes we hope that selective breeding is required soon .
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