Jedi Archive

Good Greif, im not a jedi but thought i would take a look as to what is going on here. I left shortly after the CU as my toon was unplayable, animations, strength etc, you all know the story.

Came back just a few weeks agao to have one last go, well my animations are back, speed is crap as is the game content still, only reason im still playing is to complete the last fs tree to get my paddy as its the only thing i have not done in this game. But the above posts here and all over the other forums is a carbon copy, the game has been ruined, empty cities and starports, empty cantinas, loot that is only available to the few.....looting hi level npc was my highlight and money maker, hoping to find that exceptional dot weapon, waiting in line for buffs, interacting with ents in the cantinas, trading and dualling while waiting for the shuttle to come, being able to choose what armour you wear if any, finding special doc buffs, getting that top damage slice on your Acklay weapon.

Whats left in game is a grind on MO, most have the same weapon damage, same foods and you see their CL, i prefer not knowing who you were up against, all you knew is they were buffed, now you can see whats in their stomach :/

No content, no element of suprise basically, npc's are all the same just different skins, if its cl 86 i cant solo, in the past i could adopt tactics, go in and pick away, move back and heal...those were the days.

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teamdoa wrote:

Heres what I think they are doing although I am probably wrong lol

Making Padawan exactly that, ie not that strong and dumb down the proffession to fall in-line with the fact that you are a Padawan and the grind is now easier.

Eventually impliment alonger harder grind to become a Knight or higher so you can become more powerful.

Noob ----Level 80 / Force sensitive

Level 80 / Force sensitive-------------------------------------------------------------------------Initiate

Initiate---------Padawan Full Temp.

Padawan Full Temp--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Knight +1 LightsaberBlock Mod

etc

Message Edited by teamdoa on 10-14-2005 03:03 PM

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I wouldn't have an issue with this...since I'm full temp and a little bored.

The problem, though, is that there is no communication from the devs to the player base.

If this is their plan, they need to tell us.

I wouldn't have an issue with three worlds of PvP: basic professions, Jedi, and an all-encompassing war with everyone. That way Jedi could live up to their role in the movies, basic professions could fight one another without being outclassed, and everyone could fight everyone by choice.

But, the devs are not sharing any visions of the future with us...not even their rough concepts...so we are left to speculate, cancel accounts, and generally feel pissed off or betrayed.

Sad thing is that I've spent too much time here to leave just yet. But, when I do go, I'm not coming back to Sony.

Wolf

i dont think they care...which is just sad

if you think these nerfs are bad, just wait and see what soe is going to do to eliminate the rest of the jedi who stick around....its no secret that we are getting beat into the ground with the nerf bat just for the reason soe wants jedi gone. It defies all common business sense to make your largest customer base (jedi) suffer until they drop. But, soe's thinking is that we get rid of the current wave of jedi, make it impossible again to acheive, and new players will come in as regular proffesions again. What soe doesnt realize and probably hasnt went on gaming reveiw sites to check are what people in the game currently and people who are leaving are saying as reviews. Go to ebgames.com under the mmorpg games and read the reveiws that have been left. this is one of soe's biggest distributors of the swg game and even on their own website, as of may 1st, 2005, (which is the date of the cu), this game has gotten blasted by horrible reveiws from experienced players. All over the net you can see nothing but hate pages for soe and this game, and now they are drawing lucas's name into it for not stopping this suicidal madness earlier. I guess what this game could have been will be overshawdowed by what its became because of penny pinching from soe.

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Uninformed wrote:

Don't usually do this but I want to share some of my favorite Jedi moments.

When I unlocked on 29 professions I still have the screenshot of that day and how I hit the ceiling over it.

When I made my first saber and strapped on composite and soloed things with that Perma Tef hoping no one would jump me.

When I had my second death and pushed it and hoped I wouldn't die.

When people examined me in Coronet and wondered who I was and how obvious it was to be a 90% composite bearing toon without profession badges that I CLAIMED I got from friends (which was true hehe).

How amazing it was to start mastering under the old system and adapting to the new still Pre CU one.

My first Jedi Knight duel to the death with Rebels and Imps watching. I had 20 guild members there and MAN am I glad I won or I never would have lived it down.

Those days seem ancient now.

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I do miss this, there was a magic and fear level that is long since gone... the Risk vs Reward was more present then it is now.

Patch 9 changed this, then the CU ruined it more or less. So many things that were great are just gone... it's just stupid.

But I guess we still have our screen shots and memories of fun then. I do wish that some of the new guys knew how hard and fun it was, it might give them the chance to get some respect for the class that way... but I feel it's to late.

We never tried to nerf each other or cry about a template --- we just wanted our sabers not to break and hoped for a good Pearl in a loot or buy.... Good times.

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Uninformed wrote:

Remarkably pointless class at this time.

I've played every single incarnation of the class with my Jedi, Pre, post 9, etc. I got to see it all.

I agree that Alpha classes do not work. I never looked at Jedi as Alpha, just as remarkably special. Well that is gone at the moment. Not because there are so many Jedi. Not because its easy to get, a situation caused by the Developers themselves.

Because it is broken. On every single level it is broken.

Jack of all trades master of nothing.

None of the movie concepts of Jedi have carried over except the Saber, and even that didn't translate well. Lava sabers? Oh my god. Does anyone up there care about how that further erodes the iconic nature of Jedi? Are mood sabers next?

When they revamp it I will come back I suppose, although it will be a long time in coming I fear. And I thought they were done with the nerf swinging but good lord.

All that time and investment . . . over 39 million Jedi experience . . . and for what?

If any Developer reads this post, which I sincerely doubt because they don't come here much anymore, and if Star Wars holds any value for them, please start over and salvage the most amazing icon of Star Wars that Lucas ever created.

For my friends on the board, I hold you in the deepest regard and respect. There are some AMAZING players out there playing Jedi who aspire to making them something more than toons with glowsticks. I have been proud to talk to you in PMs and on private boards about ways to save the Profession. Now I suppose its all up to SOE to wake up, but I do not believe anything can rouse it to action.

/deep bow

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Have a problem with this and I quoute "There are some AMAZING players out there playing Jedi who aspire to making them something more than toons with glowsticks." Dude you need to realize this is just a video game and no matter what you do your character will never be anything more than a toon with a glowstick. Why do you take this game so seriously? Ya I try to be the best at PvP and am obsessed with creating a perfect saber but I dont think I am actually acomplishing somthing when I do this.

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Aseikin wrote:

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Uninformed wrote:

Remarkably pointless class at this time.

I've played every single incarnation of the class with my Jedi, Pre, post 9, etc. I got to see it all.

I agree that Alpha classes do not work. I never looked at Jedi as Alpha, just as remarkably special. Well that is gone at the moment. Not because there are so many Jedi. Not because its easy to get, a situation caused by the Developers themselves.

Because it is broken. On every single level it is broken.

Jack of all trades master of nothing.

None of the movie concepts of Jedi have carried over except the Saber, and even that didn't translate well. Lava sabers? Oh my god. Does anyone up there care about how that further erodes the iconic nature of Jedi? Are mood sabers next?

When they revamp it I will come back I suppose, although it will be a long time in coming I fear. And I thought they were done with the nerf swinging but good lord.

All that time and investment . . . over 39 million Jedi experience . . . and for what?

If any Developer reads this post, which I sincerely doubt because they don't come here much anymore, and if Star Wars holds any value for them, please start over and salvage the most amazing icon of Star Wars that Lucas ever created.

For my friends on the board, I hold you in the deepest regard and respect. There are some AMAZING players out there playing Jedi who aspire to making them something more than toons with glowsticks. I have been proud to talk to you in PMs and on private boards about ways to save the Profession. Now I suppose its all up to SOE to wake up, but I do not believe anything can rouse it to action.

/deep bow

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trust me man i feel your pain and im not far behind you,i can barely bring myself to log in anymore,its a shame what our proffesion has become

Stryth

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Same here. I haven't logged my Jedi since hearing about the upcoming rules about debuffs overwriting buffs. That was the end of the garbage for me. The game has been one big nerf after another, but this one has made so little sense that I just can't hack it anymore.

Order 66 has indeed been carried out. When we leave, the last of the Jedi you will be....

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Aseikin wrote:

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Bountyzhunter wrote:

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En1Gma wrote:

Dont mean to flame.

But maybe the DEVs are doing this on purpose. I mean, with the past track record, I wouldnt put it past them. But, Im thinking they will continue to nerf the Jedi until they go down to suitable numbers. ..sorta like the current SWG timeline of NO Jedi...not 400

Just a hunch

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Then the devs need to step forward, do the right thing, and admit it. Dont try to push us out with nerfs, just come out and say: "ok folks, Jedi are done, we are getting rid of them" either way, I am going to take my money elsewhere, but with this kind of honesty, I would at least be inclined to try other SOE products since they are honest to their players. But this kind of garbage? nah, I'll take it to a competitor instead. Ball is in your court devs, make the play.

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after all the frustration ive had with this game i swear as long as i live ill never subscribe to another SOE product,the way they treat their customers is absolutely appauling,and even if they did come forth at this point and started being honest,it wouldnt matter to me,the damage has been done

Message Edited by Aseikin on 10-13-2005 09:35 AM

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This isn't just an SoE issue, it's the parent company.

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En1Gma wrote:

Dont mean to flame.

But maybe the DEVs are doing this on purpose. I mean, with the past track record, I wouldnt put it past them. But, Im thinking they will continue to nerf the Jedi until they go down to suitable numbers. ..sorta like the current SWG timeline of NO Jedi...not 400

Just a hunch

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2 things:

1) You listening??? THERE IS NO TIMELINE IN SWG! GET OVER IT!

2) I'd really like a mood saber...

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Zanholo wrote:

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En1Gma wrote:

Dont mean to flame.

But maybe the DEVs are doing this on purpose. I mean, with the past track record, I wouldnt put it past them. But, Im thinking they will continue to nerf the Jedi until they go down to suitable numbers. ..sorta like the current SWG timeline of NO Jedi...not 400

Just a hunch

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2 things:

1) You listening??? THERE IS NO TIMELINE IN SWG! GET OVER IT!

2) I'd really like a mood saber...

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They are nerfing the game until the entire player base is getting down to a suitable number to close down all of the servers. LOL