Jedi Archive
Thread: DONT NERF CLOAK!!!!
Kev0r wrote:
One-Wit_DaForce wrote:
I was hunted by 9 BH today. Every weekend is the same. I couldn't leave the planet to play on another planet with my son because of a TEF for BH. I couldn't play on this planet because I was constantly being stalked. I had to logout and I went and watched 2 movies instead. SOE get your act together.
Do you not have a alt? I'm sure your son wouldn't have minded being joined by his dad playing a non jedi character.
The BH is there to make your life hard, it's part of what you agree to when you choose to play jedi. The only difference being that acceptance is inferred, not just an "I accept" button like an EULA
I've been hunted about 3 minutes before dinnertime, about 30 seconds before I'm off out to the pub. I either stay a few more minutes to deal with them, or just die and take the penalty.
Saying how this sucks because you don't get to play your jedi is kind of missing the entire point about being jedi...risk and reward.
My lvl 1 crafter would make a great support player for my son. I know what your saying but my weekend are my big time blocks to play and I can't because of BH. I like the BH interaction. Don't get me wrong but we need to be able to play the game when we want to.
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Durzel wrote:
I hate to be the one to say it but if you have that much visibility you're probably better off taking the hit (getting DB'd by one) and moving on. Better to have no visibility and the ability to regrind in peace than wait however long it takes for vis to decay (which it won't while BHs are attacking you) with the sword of Damocles hanging over your head.
I have tried and tried to avoid it. It doesn't work. I'm at the point of believing that its not real. I think I've done nothing then whamm I'm struggling to get back up and load up on def foods and run like hell put up defences, heal, heal heal. If the damage isn't +500 with a huge bleed and poison etc. I turn around and fight.
Otherwise its get far enough away to cloak.
In my limited experience once you are on the terms you either need to take the hit, or suffer on-demand PvP for the rest of your natural Jedi life. The only alternative is to take a 3 week break (the widely acknowledge total cooldown time for visibility).
I did some group PvP recently and shortly after I had finished I was hunted about 4 times in the space of 2 hours by 4 different BHs. Cloaked and ran from 3 of them, and the 4th got me while I was doing some more group PvP. All good natured and I held no grudge against the BH (used some good tactics - shot me when I was engaged in battle with NPCs), and to be honest I was glad to get rid of the vis.
Living with the constant threat of attack is worse than 3-4 hours of grinding 400k back imo.
(As a point of note, since getting my vis zero'd by that BH I haven't had a visit since - and I've been a lot more careful about my vis. I've stopped fighting the moment a dot has appeared on the radar, so as not to get vis if someone rides through my lair. I've used a rifle to kill NPCs that were too close to my mission. You just need to be more careful I think.)
Hmm the cloak skill is pretty cool, but the thing that make's my blood boil, is noob's who can't pvp and fight ppl, but instead they keep cloaked and try to blow ppl of there bike's.
IMO i think alot of ppl have brought this possible nerf on themselves, for acting so stupid and childish with the skill.
We can cancel the mission thats true... but the fight goes on cos of the TEF... this I have testedwhen i fighting a jedi, and not to try exploiting or anything, simply cos the fight lasted 15min and I got bored.. Nor me or the jedi was close to dieing, so i used burstrun, canceled the mission and sent a tell to the jedi saying i had canceled it. However, we could both attack eachother after i did cos of the 5min tef. Unf. i do not remember the name of the Jedi, but if u read this pls confirm this fact.
One-Wit_DaForce wrote:
I should be able to force AURA, eat foods, heal, run, etc, enter a building, pay harvester maint, etc. I use it as a defense mechanism. A BH can simply cancel a mission when loosing. What about letting the mark drop the mission if he doesn't like the outcome.Chat and interacting with the environment should be limited. I don't like the idea of looting while cloaked.
cloudwalker1 wrote:
Bovafett wrote:
IceBerg1163 wrote:
-Sorry man cloak is being Abused. It should have a FC like AI, and u shouldnt be able to use spatial chat or interat with the enviroment. That is my thought.
QFE
This is exacly why this nerf is taking place. I am all for it. Does anyone honestly believe that the DEVs intended for people to +cloak+ and then agro mobs onto other players that simply are trying to enjoy the game?
That is just 1 example. Rationalize that if you can.
LOL someone else that doesnt know how cloak or even mob agro works, go play the game and you would find out even if a cloaker draged the overlord all way to begginining of DWB as soon as he loses the agro the overlord runs back to origanal spot. The only way you could possible be attacked is if you were standing nearhis spaewn point(in which case u would get attacked anyhow) or you decided to attack the overlord as he was chasing cloaker( in which case its your fault)
Do you want to make anything else up to try and make you look foolish
Are you daft? The reason the nerf is happening is because of instances like this. YOU go play the game how it is now and see. At no point in my original post did I get nasty, thanks for the whole new mature level, guy.
One-Wit_DaForce wrote:Its in the release notes for theranger upgrade. All you will be able to do while cloaked is logout. You can't move. You can't heal, aura, etc etc. If you do anything other than sit still you will uncloak.
Read Baciacca's new post. Also it said a low level ranger couldnt move while cloaked, a master infact can. Cloak will be used as a first strike attack rather than for escape (we can pick fr for that).
Bovafett wrote:
cloudwalker1 wrote:
Bovafett wrote:
IceBerg1163 wrote:
-Sorry man cloak is being Abused. It should have a FC like AI, and u shouldnt be able to use spatial chat or interat with the enviroment. That is my thought.
QFE
This is exacly why this nerf is taking place. I am all for it. Does anyone honestly believe that the DEVs intended for people to +cloak+ and then agro mobs onto other players that simply are trying to enjoy the game?
That is just 1 example. Rationalize that if you can.
LOL someone else that doesnt know how cloak or even mob agro works, go play the game and you would find out even if a cloaker draged the overlord all way to begginining of DWB as soon as he loses the agro the overlord runs back to origanal spot. The only way you could possible be attacked is if you were standing nearhis spaewn point(in which case u would get attacked anyhow) or you decided to attack the overlord as he was chasing cloaker( in which case its your fault)
Do you want to make anything else up to try and make you look foolish
Are you daft? The reason the nerf is happening is because of instances like this. YOU go play the game how it is now and see. At no point in my original post did I get nasty, thanks for the whole new mature level, guy.
err wasnt quoteing u but the muppet who claims cloaked jedi could train mobs on players, if i was quoting you i would have searched out your origanal post.
Are you daft?