Jedi Archive
Thread: DONT NERF CLOAK!!!!
Tarja- wrote:
OMG! don't nerf my uber 1337 god mode that lets me stand in the middle of 20 overts and simply sit there and talk to them while im overt. don't take away my "i can't loose" button i suck and ill die. pfft. it would NEVER work in the FRS stop whining. it should never have been in game.
FRS give powers most of the mods, atleast it did pre CU. wait till that comes out before saying powers is worthless.
sure my PvP rating was 1900+ while i had cloak, because you can't die...it doesnt fit SWG.
hmm once again some one else who doesnt know what they are talking about,
firstly standing in middle of 20 overts would drain your force even with channel in about 4-5 minutes.
secondly, how is current fixes going to stop me not dying. I can still run away and cloak, SOE will fix the exploit people use to follow cloakers and hey once again i have my "i cant loose button back"
well i say leave cloak alone & un nerf avoid incap.
or give cloak a crazy snare & a crazy force cost.
either i dont mind
Tarja- wrote:FRS give powers most of the mods, atleast it did pre CU. wait till that comes out before saying powers is worthless.
The only hole in your argument is that any MPowers user is going to have a very tough time against the FOTM MDef/MLS, or indeed any MDef template - or even someone with Force Feedback. It's all very well and good saying "Powers gets buffs in the FRS" but what good is that when people can't even rise up the ranks anyway because the profession is so gimped DPS wise, and/or if they aren't interested in the FRS anyway?
NERF IT !
cloacked jedi as rabbits, run -> cloack -> hole -> logout
ASTRONOM wrote:NERF IT !
cloacked jedi as rabbits, run -> cloack -> hole -> logout
And that's wrong why?
I totally agree regarding the exploits and PvP ganking aspects of Cloak (the latter to a lesser extent as its a valid "rogue" profession), but stopping people from running away from confrontations they don't want to have, or have no hope of winning - whether it be PvE or BHs, is perfectly valid.
You can mitigate it by not doing the obvious things like duelling in starports, doing any GCW PvP whatsoever, etc but that doesn't stop things like:
1) People riding right through your lairs when you're out grinding,
2) NPCs spawning on you mid-mission
3) The whole "unknown" aspect of visibility - does Force Run generate vis when activated within 32m of an NPC, or simply if its on? (having been activated somewhere else). Does Cloak generate vis? Does uncloaking generate vis? etc, etc.
Bottom line, Cloak is - and should be - a valid means of escape from any fight that person chooses not to engage in, or decides that they cannot win. It should be an escape and nothing more - not a means of regenerating health, force or whatever. THAT is what is "broken" (if anything) with Cloak, the fact you can hold aggro, heal/infuse yourself and others and alpha-strike constantly with impunity. The rest is valid playstyle.
whitethunder wrote:
stay off the terminals and you dont have to worry about BH's, do you not get that ??
I'll stay off the terminals if I can have a 200m warning zone that some noob is about to fly through the mission im grinding.
I'll stay off the terminals if 'sirad far' didnt keep on spawning underneath the mission lair.
I'll stay off the terminals if noobs understood ungrouping while you are still in combat isnt good
Successful: 2 So master def avoid incap or Stasis aren't you can't die buttons also. Give me avoid encap or stasis in place of cloak and my whining stops. Also, I have been knocked flat and encapped 1 time with cloak. They hit fast and hard. I was down before I could run and cloak. Plus the BH was a hybrid with cloak and force run. I ran about 1500m before I could cloak from him.
Cloak should be moved to Master Powers. Thats about all that should be done to change it.