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Thread: Cloakers start banking XP

Gr00d
Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:18 am
#27

Master healer already gets totalheal, master defender already gets avoid incap, master enhancer already gets advanced force run, master lightsaber gets dervish, master powers... only gets a choke that doesn't do very much against a majority of Jedi and breech that misses more often than stasis does. Master wielder does not get very beneficial skills other than cloak which is a tier 4 tree that many can easily dabble into and if developers decide to break cloak instead of moving it to the master box, then God help the master force wielders.





Being of the master powers template....don't do a durn thing with cloak!!! REALLYI don't think ppl realize how very LITTLE dmg ouput powers can do. If i didn't have cloak as a viable, "crap i'm screwed run away" option I would be a sitting target...for well..anybody, that had the mind to come at me. It is a complete suppport role and i relly on cloak heavely to try and stay alive long enough to give said support. So do i use cloak to run away? YES! you bet your arse i do. Because fighting really isn't an option for the master powers user, especially against another jedi. Now against a bh we can sometimes get lucky and come out on top but these instances are not to often and if the bh is a cm and knows how to play his class...well...suppression, force run, cloak,....that is our only option.


Now you BH's out there that say if a powers templated jedihas to run then his template is messed up? OKAY i agree give powers more dmg and less force cost...BUT then you'd be complaining we were overpowered. As i see it cloak is an invaluable tool for the master powers user, he can run into a fray help debuff a target and then...run out, before he is cut to ribbons. And i am of the opinion that sacraficing any kind of dmg output i should be able to play as a support role, and cloak allows me that option. Now as far as moving the cloak to master...weeeell it wouldn't hurt me, but i don't know if that is a good idea. Jedi do have to lose sp to get to the tier 4 box so they definately are sacraficing some for the template.


Shinky
Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:14 am
#28

Force cloak SHOULD have a large warm up and cool down.


Regarding cloaking and farming of dungeons and stuff, just makethe jedi not able to lootwhile cloaked. "You cannotopen this container whileunder cover"



And finally, to all those ppl who smash dabblers with cloak, jedi is meant for dabbling that's why you can reach 80 without double mastery. Plus with dabbling, dabblers have weaknesses like low total force and full mastery mods. Any full templated jedi is 28sp stronger than someone with cloak. I have cloak, and i love using mind blast, i've never farmed a single bin or box, and i just simply want cloak to hide when i need to.



Moving CLOAK to Master Powers? Just because Choke isn't strong enough to be viable in jedi pvp, doesn't mean there's a problem with cloak. Fix choke, don't move cloak. Cloak isn't the top speciality of a master of force powers. Yay! I'm a force wielder! my special is dissappear and run away! FIX CHOKE. IT WAS NUTS PRE CU - IT WILL FIX ALL.





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Virtuell
Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:43 am
#29






DaxHerder wrote:

All this crying about this and that is what screws things up to begin with. When do people stop crying? When it's finally a big piece of "sheet" like everything else.Powers already sucks, why cry nerf on the only reason to spec powers? Some things have to have advantages over others plain and simple. If defender is so much better than powers, then why is cloak so bad? Just fix the bugs IMO...





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X-Ray2
Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:33 am
#30

We can't turn ourselves into babies, butyou can certainly learn to behave like adults.



X-RAY
uhhhhh
Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:56 pm
#31






SugarBuzz1 wrote:


I see the pattern. Like every other time. Jedi have a skill thats powerful. Allows us to control combat. Actually works(minus some of the exploits that should be fixed) and gives us abilities that no one has or can counter. What do you think is coming? Im not going to use the word but we all know. We can see it . Only a matter of time.

Message Edited by SugarBuzz1 on 09-06-2005 09:30 AM




You answered your own question.


That type of skill belongs in a master box. Period.


You should have to give up alot more then the "little" xp you do to get a move that allows you to "Sneak" up on someone and attack.


All powerful skills really should be in the master box, It dont need a nerf, it just needs to be moved to a box that fits its power.





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SugarBuzz1
Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:35 am
#32

/TOLD YA SO



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