Jedi Archive
Thread: IMPORTANT BH HAVE BEEN ATTACKING IN GROUPS on a single jedi!!!! READ I HAVE PROOF!!!
Erel
Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:13 am
#27
Happened to me. Took over 20min for the second BH to find my mission. I'm Imperial. I deserved it though...because I was taunting the first for not "following through". So she did...20min later...with help from a guildie. Argh.
Bugboy321
Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:33 am
#28
All it takes is a little coordination via email for BH'rs to find out who has the same Jedi as they do. If you don't think they've figured out the weaknesses in the system by now, you've underestimated the power of bored adolescents with nothing else to do but push the envelope.
It never ceases to amaze me the lengths players go to in exploiting the mechanics of the game that are working as intended. The first thing players on TC did with the new, improved Y-8mining ship was what, go asteroid miningwith it?No, theytake it to DS and start wailing on Star Destroyers.
Boatsheets
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:02 am
#29
TarkanArrant wrote:I just want to know why everyone is saying it's an exploit rofl, geeze.
I had two come for me at the same time. I ended up getting killed because of healing delay. But the point was I think it was just random....not a coordinated attack.
darlokes
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:03 am
#30
TarkanArrant wrote:
I just want to know why everyone is saying it's an exploit rofl, geeze.
because its not supposed top happen doesnt anyone remember that guy(dev er someone of importance) sayin jedi vs bh is supposed to be a one on one thing thats why your rofling idiot
whitethunder
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:04 am
#31
TarkanArrant wrote:
I just want to know why everyone is saying it's an exploit rofl, geeze.
I know, its pure and simple planning. Sometimes it truly is luck (2 BH of different guilds), but if you just keeping pulling missions and keep launching droids until you have a mark on the same planet, how is that an exploit ??
ThereIsPassion
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:15 am
#33
Same name at the terminal "not jedi name" ![]()
Same value
Same faction
Viola!
every decentbh knows this by now.
So no... its not an expolit... But very patient people ![]()
Mektos
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:21 am
#34
This isn't anything surprising. With everyone grinding bols north out of MO it isn't unexpected for people to learn how the terminals work. Here is exactly what the BH are doing to find you.
When you get Visability you get a random number attached to your mission. The mission doesn't state what Jedi the mission belongs to but the number will always be the same until that Jedi is killed. So.. Say you get a Random Bounty for 48,231 credits from a single target individual on the term. That individual will be offering a Jedi bounty. Now, 7 other master bounty hunters spam through the mission looking for the number 48,231 credits. This is done similar to looking for BOLs north. Once, all of them get the same mission they go out hunting for the target.
I believe the current system will pay each of those individuals the 200k+ (1k x SP in JEDI) credits if they are within 64 meters if the Mark dies. So, as you can see.... it isn't any different for them to pull the same mission then it was for them to search for Bols.
When you get Visability you get a random number attached to your mission. The mission doesn't state what Jedi the mission belongs to but the number will always be the same until that Jedi is killed. So.. Say you get a Random Bounty for 48,231 credits from a single target individual on the term. That individual will be offering a Jedi bounty. Now, 7 other master bounty hunters spam through the mission looking for the number 48,231 credits. This is done similar to looking for BOLs north. Once, all of them get the same mission they go out hunting for the target.
I believe the current system will pay each of those individuals the 200k+ (1k x SP in JEDI) credits if they are within 64 meters if the Mark dies. So, as you can see.... it isn't any different for them to pull the same mission then it was for them to search for Bols.
Miqmac
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:23 am
#35
Whitethunder wrote:
I know, its pure and simple planning. Sometimes it truly is luck (2 BH of different guilds), but if you just keeping pulling missions and keep launching droids until you have a mark on the same planet, how is that an exploit ??
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.... Because of two things:
1. the terminal system was changed to PREVENT
read further down for some reason half of this message got posted while i was still typing. I must have hit a button somewhere 
Message Edited by Miqmac on 09-22-2005 07:37 AM
whitethunder
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:27 am
#36
Miqmac wrote:
Whitethunder wrote:
I know, its pure and simple planning. Sometimes it truly is luck (2 BH of different guilds), but if you just keeping pulling missions and keep launching droids until you have a mark on the same planet, how is that an exploit ??
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.... Because of two things:
1. the terminal system was changed to PREVENT
It does prevent you from pulling a marks name, thats IT, it never was promised anything more... They did say they were TRYING to make it a 1on1 encounter but that was it. If they wanted to PREVENT it, they simply would only allow 1 BH to attack the jedi at a time and the other would have to wait until the one was db'd or dropped the mission.
Miqmac
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:34 am
#37
Whitethunder wrote:
I know, its pure and simple planning. Sometimes it truly is luck (2 BH of different guilds), but if you just keeping pulling missions and keep launching droids until you have a mark on the same planet, how is that an exploit ??
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.... Because of two things:
1. the terminal changes were made specifically to prevent BH from selecting a specific target (normally a low level padawan) and to prevent multiple BH from attacking the same target.
2. using a hole in the system to circumvent theintended mechanics of the game intentionally..... makes it an exploit plain and simple.
if two BH happen to get the same mission unintentionally for example they both run up to a picket lair and see their mark spinning the lair and at that time notice they both have the same mission that IS NOT an exploit its just bad luck for the jedi.
However these people are selecting specific missions from the terminals (they dont even need to send a droid up to do it).
THEY ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SHODDY PROGRAMING TO CREATE A CIRCUMSTANCE THAT'S NOT ONLY UNINTENDED, THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES MADE TOPREVENTTHAT SPECIFICACTION.
you should hit your screen shot button, submit a bug report and contact a CSR each time it happens. The exploiters will be warned and because the temptation is to great they will probably continue to do the same thing. SO it needs to be reported every time it happens. they will then either start punishing the people involved or change the system.
whitethunder
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:41 am
#38
Miqmac wrote:
Whitethunder wrote:
I know, its pure and simple planning. Sometimes it truly is luck (2 BH of different guilds), but if you just keeping pulling missions and keep launching droids until you have a mark on the same planet, how is that an exploit ??
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.... Because of two things:
1. the terminal changes were made specifically to prevent BH from selecting a specific target (normally a low level padawan) and to prevent multiple BH from attacking the same target.
2. using a hole in the system to circumvent theintended mechanics of the game intentionally..... makes it an exploit plain and simple.
if two BH happen to get the same mission unintentionally for example they both run up to a picket lair and see their mark spinning the lair and at that time notice they both have the same mission that IS NOT an exploit its just bad luck for the jedi.
However these people are selecting specific missions from the terminals (they dont even need to send a droid up to do it).
THEY ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SHODDY PROGRAMING TO CREATE A CIRCUMSTANCE THAT'S NOT ONLY UNINTENDED, THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES MADE TOPREVENTTHAT SPECIFICACTION.
you should hit your screen shot button, submit a bug report and contact a CSR each time it happens. The exploiters will be warned and because the temptation is to great they will probably continue to do the same thing. SO it needs to be reported every time it happens. they will then either start punishing the people involved or change the system.
The problem is you cannot be sure, so they will never do anything. I had 2 missions in 2 days where myself and another BH started attacking a jedi at roughtly the same time, and I had never talked to either one of them before, and one was even in my guild !! You just can not be sure that this was the case so there is no way for you to prove this.
darlokes
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:44 am
#39
whitethunder wrote:
Miqmac wrote:
Whitethunder wrote:
I know, its pure and simple planning. Sometimes it truly is luck (2 BH of different guilds), but if you just keeping pulling missions and keep launching droids until you have a mark on the same planet, how is that an exploit ??
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.... Because of two things:
1. the terminal changes were made specifically to prevent BH from selecting a specific target (normally a low level padawan) and to prevent multiple BH from attacking the same target.
2. using a hole in the system to circumvent theintended mechanics of the game intentionally..... makes it an exploit plain and simple.
if two BH happen to get the same mission unintentionally for example they both run up to a picket lair and see their mark spinning the lair and at that time notice they both have the same mission that IS NOT an exploit its just bad luck for the jedi.
However these people are selecting specific missions from the terminals (they dont even need to send a droid up to do it).
THEY ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SHODDY PROGRAMING TO CREATE A CIRCUMSTANCE THAT'S NOT ONLY UNINTENDED, THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES MADE TOPREVENTTHAT SPECIFICACTION.
you should hit your screen shot button, submit a bug report and contact a CSR each time it happens. The exploiters will be warned and because the temptation is to great they will probably continue to do the same thing. SO it needs to be reported every time it happens. they will then either start punishing the people involved or change the system.
The problem is you cannot be sure, so they will never do anything. I had 2 missions in 2 days where myself and another BH started attacking a jedi at roughtly the same time, and I had never talked to either one of them before, and one was even in my guild !! You just can not be sure that this was the case so there is no way for you to prove this.
i am sure it was the same three guys within ten mins of the last attack of the other guy on a different planet