Jedi Archive

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Andriko wrote:

I agree, the 24 FS boxes needed should be given automatically, you should just have to pick the ones you want (like the profession calculator, you can pick whatever 24 boxes you want), and after that is applied, then you apply your current Jedi boxes to the transfer, and they should re-implement saber xp so 4-x-x-x initiates could apply their saber skills in the old system to saber skills in the new system.

And when does a post-patch 10 FS get the lightsaber cert? It's gonna be hard to get Jedi xp for the 24 required boxes in FS skills without a saber or force powers

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After seeing and using the trees in TC2, reading the archives, and reading between the lines in the dev posts, I'm betting things go like this for someone who "STARTS" the quest method after publish 10:

- Completeanyfirst FS box by means of new quest/s and gaining Jedi XP = earn "Initiate" title

- Compltete at least 24 FS boxes by means of new quests = access Padawan Trials

- Complete Padawan Trials = New character slot available, earn "Padawan" title, receive robe &training saber schem

- Completely invest all 250 points into Jedi Skill trees = earn "Knight" title and access Knight Trials (new robe?)

- Complete Knight Trials = earn "Guardian" title, select Dark or Light, begin work in PvP aspect of game toward council roles (new robe?)

- Obtain council seat on dark or light side = earn "Master" title and any additional perks like new robe, skills, etc.

- Get bumped off council, lose perks and "master" title, back to "Guardian" to work it up some more.

Just what my observations have come to make me think anyway...

My major problem with it, is that its liek were paying for jedi twice. That's just, not fair, at all.

/sign

I usually don't do this...

But here we go:

/sign & /bump

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x8 wrote:
If someone is just an initiate with no boxes, how will they be able to get all 6 FS lines if they only have the initiate box and nothing else to get themselves the 6 credits they will need to complete all the FS boxes?

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If you unlocked prior to publish 9 you enter the new system at publish 9 just after the Padawan Trial point with 24 FS completed, a robe, a schem for a training saber and any Jedi XP you may have earned in the old system.

If you are just an Initiate here with no Jedi skills or XP (as if you just unlocked here), you are the equivalent to a Padawan in the new system.

Here is the best place for an explanation of the new design of progression through the trees, titles, experience, etc:

http://swgexplorer.dras.us/tc9/menu.htm

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EMC2 wrote:

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x8 wrote:
If someone is just an initiate with no boxes, how will they be able to get all 6 FS lines if they only have the initiate box and nothing else to get themselves the 6 credits they will need to complete all the FS boxes?

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If you unlocked prior to publish 9 you enter the new system at publish 9 just after the Padawan Trial point with 24 FS completed, a robe, a schem for a training saber and any Jedi XP you may have earned in the old system.

If you are just an Initiate here with no Jedi skills or XP (as if you just unlocked here), you are the equivalent to a Padawan in the new system.

Here is the best place for an explanation of the new design of progression through the trees, titles, experience, etc:

http://swgexplorer.dras.us/tc9/menu.htm

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No true jedi can argue against this.

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x8 wrote:


Hmmm.. so those FS boxes aren't required to become a Padawan? I thought they were.

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In the NEW system, they are required as the means of "unlocking". In THIS system, current Jedi have already unlocked by means of mastering professions. Therefore, Jedi in this system are placed into the next system AHEAD of the FS boxes. Please, go read the details on this link so you understand. The titles and progression in this system are not the same as the next, that is why it may seem confusing with regard to titles. Essentially what we know as an Initiate in this system is a Padawan in the next.

This explains it quite well:

http://swgexplorer.dras.us/tc9/menu.htm

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EMC2 wrote:

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x8 wrote:


Hmmm.. so those FS boxes aren't required to become a Padawan? I thought they were.

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In the NEW system, they are required as the means of "unlocking". In THIS system, current Jedi have already unlocked by means of mastering professions. Therefore, Jedi in this system are placed into the next system AHEAD of the FS boxes. Please, go read the details on this link so you understand. The titles and progression in this system are not the same as the next, that is why it may seem confusing with regard to titles. Essentially what we know as an Initiate in this system is a Padawan in the next.

This explains it quite well:

http://swgexplorer.dras.us/tc9/menu.htm

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Masa wrote:

/sign

No true jedi can argue against this.

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<--this guy can can.

You're all looking at this the wrong way, the dev's aren't trying to make us pay double to get jedi (hologrinding and using points on the pre-jedi trees), it's their way of cancelling out the first light saber tree.

Anyone who argues that point is looking to get a free 6 extra boxes and that is it.

New system you have to be 4110 initiate to switch over to padawan status, who does not have atleast that? That is 70k jedi exp, which is easily obtainable in ONE buff session.

going to 4111 requires another 50k jedi exp, but you get an 80k jedi exp box in the new system.

From there the boxes either transfer over exp to exp or you are gaining exp.

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BobaMeng wrote:

if your an 4/1/1/1 initiate how are you screwed?

The 4 is LS exp, you can get to that in under 20 minutes. and with ?/1/1/1 your only going to loose 200k exp, sure its bad but.

look at the guy who is 4/4/4/4 initiate, loosing that much exp is going to hurt.

anyone under 4/2/2/2 isnt going to loose much more then 1 or 2 days of hunting. to go from ?/?/?/3 to ?/?/?/4 is about 1 week of steady hunting.

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Message Edited by VipEVX-Nine on 06-02-2004 08:51 PM