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Thread: How many people made Master? Give me screenshots!

Hass1234567
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:44 pm
#27






JediMasterKai wrote:






Hass1234567 wrote:






JediMasterKai wrote:





Hass1234567 wrote:






JediMasterKai wrote:
It's not cheating if you are told to do it. Were it cheating, would I not be banned from the game...? Ponder on that for a while.





*ponders*


Yes, cheaters, all of you. Im so proud of you all


/patselfonback


*****





If it really upsets you that much, you could always write 'Jedi Master' on your monitor where your HAM usually sits, that way you can feel good inside and put that jealous hate away.


Notice, none of us flaunt the title or go around laughing at people who don't have it. It's something I simply needed to do, and after sitting here from Beta, getting to 4/4/4/4 Guardian, being told we would convert to Master, then not...then having to run around starports ruining the GCW, etc. Well...I'm sorry if I took the opportunity to enjoy the game and get something out of it. If it burns you that much, take some TUMS.








Im not jelous at all. I just believe that when people cheat on a MMPORPG, they cheat the comunity aswell. When they fix the mods and bonuses in the "New FRS" fightclubbing will be game breaking



/tiphat





I'm sorry, but unless you can please indicate to me how I was in fact cheating and breaking game rules, then your claims are fully libel in nature and have no need to be on these boards. I was never warned, banned or otherwise informed that my actions or my fellow Jedi's actions were breaking any rules. I actually verified with developers about what I was doing and was given the 'OK.' So please take your hate and kindly deliver it elsewhere.







Yeah well we have heard it all before. What you just wrote is typical fc chat, blah blah /yawn


The entire community knows it was moraly wrong. thats all that matters. If you think it was fair, acceptable, right. Then all fc'ers truely are in a league of their own


Again


+1


nothing to see here



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JediMasterKai
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:45 pm
#28






DivNotDed wrote:





JediMasterKai wrote:
It's not cheating if you are told to do it. Were it cheating, would I not be banned from the game...? Ponder on that for a while.





With this logic Aspeeder, credit duping and everything else was ok. Why do you think one of the reasons FRS was turned off, if you really think it was just the respec period that caused this then you might want to rethink it. The respec period gave SOE the easy way to NERF FRS and it was due to a flawed system that allowed The guild Hall Masters to exist (truly they are "masters of their own domain") and thats about all they were worth.




It's not the same logic, actually. If you ask a developer, they will say credit duping is against the game rules and would result in a ban. I asked if my method of 'fight clubbing' was against the game rules. They told me it was not. Therefore, you're comparing something that is illegal and something that is legal in a game. Do not concern this with moral issues. There are no moral grounds in a video game, other than your own personal ones. If you feel that fight clubbing was wrong, that is fine. I do too. But to call it cheating and against the game rules is another story.


As for the 'all they are worth' comment, please don't assume like you know anything about me. I've been here since beta probably as many of you have and play the game just as well.



Hass1234567
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:47 pm
#29






JediMasterKai wrote:





DivNotDed wrote:





JediMasterKai wrote:
It's not cheating if you are told to do it. Were it cheating, would I not be banned from the game...? Ponder on that for a while.





With this logic Aspeeder, credit duping and everything else was ok. Why do you think one of the reasons FRS was turned off, if you really think it was just the respec period that caused this then you might want to rethink it. The respec period gave SOE the easy way to NERF FRS and it was due to a flawed system that allowed The guild Hall Masters to exist (truly they are "masters of their own domain") and thats about all they were worth.




It's not the same logic, actually. If you ask a developer, they will say credit duping is against the game rules and would result in a ban. I asked if my method of 'fight clubbing' was against the game rules. They told me it was not. Therefore, you're comparing something that is illegal and something that is legal in a game. Do not concern this with moral issues. There are no moral grounds in a video game, other than your own personal ones. If you feel that fight clubbing was wrong, that is fine. I do too. But to call it cheating and against the game rules is another story.


As for the 'all they are worth' comment, please don't assume like you know anything about me. I've been here since beta probably as many of you have and play the game just as well.







lol


Is there a fight clubbers forum where what you have just wrote is stickied?


or have you wrote it so many times the keyboard can type itself.......



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GaladanAZ
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:48 pm
#30

I don't want this to be confused with brown nosing , because I don't know him personally and have nothing to gain by saying this.But I have dualed Intaru and I have seen him in battle and that fish is "bad to the bone or is it bad to the gill", whether you think he got it "honorably" or not I don't think any could argue that if any jedi are deserving of the jedi master title then Intaru is.




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KODAKSTEVENS
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:50 pm
#31






Hass1234567 wrote:




lol


Is there a fight clubbers forum where what you have just wrote is stickied?


or have you wrote it so many times the keyboard can type itself.......






why not ask our own shepherd the jebay'ed fight clubber? , he mite have the link to a fourm of that type lol



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Hass1234567
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:52 pm
#32






JediMasterKai wrote:





Hass1234567 wrote:






JediMasterKai wrote:






Hass1234567 wrote:






JediMasterKai wrote:





Hass1234567 wrote:






JediMasterKai wrote:
It's not cheating if you are told to do it. Were it cheating, would I not be banned from the game...? Ponder on that for a while.





*ponders*


Yes, cheaters, all of you. Im so proud of you all


/patselfonback


*****





If it really upsets you that much, you could always write 'Jedi Master' on your monitor where your HAM usually sits, that way you can feel good inside and put that jealous hate away.


Notice, none of us flaunt the title or go around laughing at people who don't have it. It's something I simply needed to do, and after sitting here from Beta, getting to 4/4/4/4 Guardian, being told we would convert to Master, then not...then having to run around starports ruining the GCW, etc. Well...I'm sorry if I took the opportunity to enjoy the game and get something out of it. If it burns you that much, take some TUMS.








Im not jelous at all. I just believe that when people cheat on a MMPORPG, they cheat the comunity aswell. When they fix the mods and bonuses in the "New FRS" fightclubbing will be game breaking



/tiphat





I'm sorry, but unless you can please indicate to me how I was in fact cheating and breaking game rules, then your claims are fully libel in nature and have no need to be on these boards. I was never warned, banned or otherwise informed that my actions or my fellow Jedi's actions were breaking any rules. I actually verified with developers about what I was doing and was given the 'OK.' So please take your hate and kindly deliver it elsewhere.







Yeah well we have heard it all before. What you just wrote is typical fc chat, blah blah /yawn


The entire community knows it was moraly wrong. thats all that matters. If you think it was fair, acceptable, right. Then all fc'ers truely are in a league of their own


Again


+1


nothing to see here





Typical 'I just lost a debate' response. Like I just said, you can not force your moral views in a video game and compare them with rules which are clearly define.


Nonetheless, how does someone who has a two-word title above their head affect your gameplay in any way shape or form? I don't understand the hate at all.







Well from my experience. My server wasnt effected as bad as some. Luckely we dont have a master. The highest is rank 7 Templar.


The FRS supprisingly meant alot to many. Its all they had to look forward to. yes the system sucked but it was possible to work up it, if not all the way to the top. We have genuine sentinels and enforcers. We know who the fighclubbers were.


When somone spends alot of their time pvping (the system was designed for pvp) gaining and losing frs xp. Slowy and earning there way up the ranks it means alot and others respec what they have earned. Obviously aiming to reach rank 12.


Then when som1 comes out to play every few weeks and have a few new titles it hurts the ones who try to achieve them correctly. Maybe it sounds sad and pathetic but I can assure you. I different looking robe and title means alot to many.....



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JediMasterKai
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:57 pm
#33

It was impossible to rank up without 'exploiting' (if that is what you wish to call it)after a certain point. I got to Rank V without Fight Clubbing but you know what? After that point, it is impossible. The system was flawed because it was a hierarchical structure that based advancing on defeating those at your level or above. If you defeat those below you, there is not enough gain to keep you afloat. That is the flaw. To move up, you must kill those above you, but once you rise above a level, there is no one above you because they can't kill anyone higher either. Then you die and return down where they were. It's a Catch 22. So no, please do not say that you could level it legitimately when there was no way to do that. I tried, we all did.

Message Edited by JediMasterKai on 09-30-2005 03:58 PM

ray-dac
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:59 pm
#34

/agree. No legitimate way unless it was an all jedi server lol.
Hass1234567
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:01 pm
#35






ray-dac wrote:

/agree. No legitimate way unless it was an all jedi server lol.





Well, it almost is so we shall have to wait and see



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ray-dac
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:12 pm
#36

Man I hope not. I already spend more time on the forums than I do in-game.
Hass1234567
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:14 pm
#37






ray-dac wrote:
Man I hope not. I already spend more time on the forums than I do in-game.





troll



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ray-dac
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:16 pm
#38

Not quite a troll. Look how many postings I have for how long I ahve been registered. The game is boring now. Since the CU anyway.
iskareot
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:24 pm
#39

Well On Bria in the (FIRST) Fight Club ever we had about 8 or so I think, then the DEVS deemed this a exploit and banned the accounts.



BUT THEN in a twist of fate and alot of letters later they changed the rules and freed the banned accounts.


Then fightclubbing was allowed.


Bria again was the first in the testing of the system lol, not that it was good but they did what we always do... lead the pack and then get crazy with it.


BUT I did not condone the FC's I know the system was broke but making it worse did not help.


All in all it was a bad system of holding your XP -- see it was really not so bad in the mere fact of the gaining of it.. but the cost to hold the XP was stupid.


If they had made the system hold xp instead of loss then at least the FCs would have slowed maybe if they changed some of the ways you get XP -- but nope , DO over like SOE does best.



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In the context of new development methods adopted within the past year by the studio responsible for Star Wars Galaxies, which a year ago saw several drastic changes to the game-world's overall experience, SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes."
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