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Thread: It seems like they're publishing these changes before even concepting

Maxil
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:17 pm
#27

no $%^# sherlock, rifleman, carb, pistoleer, TKA, pikeman, and swords are no longer main professions. they are becoming sub-sets of nearly every other profession. I think your looking at it is that there is no diversity among the 9 new classes, but it has been said they will incorperate parts from all of the old skills, (all profs will have ranged/melee options) hence most of the love and changes will seemlessly integrate into the new system



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MikeHeXt
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:21 pm
#28

There won't be much diversity because that would cost them too much in dev assets. That's what this entire thing is about. SOE NEEDS money. They want to cheap out. They want to make anything they can before the boat sinks, and they want to do it FAST. That's why this entire thing is coming out of NO WHERE. That's why they hid it when we heard about rumors of it around a few days after the preorders for ToOW began and they told us it was just "mislabeled KoToR advertisement". They were hiding this because as soon as they saw their preorder quota wasn't matching up, they did step 2, launch the nuke that would put the final nail in the SWG coffin, and bring back any and all chances of revinue they might have. They tried it from a "VET ONLY" point of view (ToOW was digital download only, remember?), now they're trying it from a "NEWBIE MAINLY" point of view.



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MikeHeXt
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:22 pm
#29

This whole thing was a quickly thrown together back up plan. Just look at the art assets they put out on various fan sites already, it's thrown together stuff any graphic designer can do within minutes (i know, I am one.)



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Maxil
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:23 pm
#30


MikeHeXt wrote:
There won't be much diversity because that would cost them too much in dev assets. That's what this entire thing is about. SOE NEEDS money. They want to cheap out. They want to make anything they can before the boat sinks, and they want to do it FAST. That's why this entire thing is coming out of NO WHERE. That's why they hid it when we heard about rumors of it around a few days after the preorders for ToOW began and they told us it was just "mislabeled KoToR advertisement". They were hiding this because as soon as they saw their preorder quota wasn't matching up, they did step 2, launch the nuke that would put the final nail in the SWG coffin, and bring back any and all chances of revinue they might have. They tried it from a "VET ONLY" point of view (ToOW was digital download only, remember?), now they're trying it from a "NEWBIE MAINLY" point of view.




Ok now your just making ignorant assumptions without even knowing specifically how the skillset system is going to work, and becoming a troll.. Wanna quit go ahead clicky

If you think this is a backup plan, imagine how much money they've tossed into manhours for something that "may not even go in" if it was as simple as a backup plan.. Schemes on this level are not "maybe" scenarios

Message Edited by Maxil on 11-04-2005 12:24 AM



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MikeHeXt
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:24 pm
#31

Well guys thanks for the discussion. I'm going to bed. I'm sorry it came down to this, I really wish SOE/LA didn't let the game fall like this on its face. They should have just aimed for the base content rather than let it fall on its face because of premium service charges.



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MikeHeXt
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:25 pm
#32


Maxil wrote:


MikeHeXt wrote:
There won't be much diversity because that would cost them too much in dev assets. That's what this entire thing is about. SOE NEEDS money. They want to cheap out. They want to make anything they can before the boat sinks, and they want to do it FAST. That's why this entire thing is coming out of NO WHERE. That's why they hid it when we heard about rumors of it around a few days after the preorders for ToOW began and they told us it was just "mislabeled KoToR advertisement". They were hiding this because as soon as they saw their preorder quota wasn't matching up, they did step 2, launch the nuke that would put the final nail in the SWG coffin, and bring back any and all chances of revinue they might have. They tried it from a "VET ONLY" point of view (ToOW was digital download only, remember?), now they're trying it from a "NEWBIE MAINLY" point of view.




Ok now your just making ignorant assumptions without even knowing specifically how the skillset system is going to work, and becoming a troll.. Wanna quit go ahead clicky




Are you kidding me? Ignorant assumptions? Look at the "Character select screen" It's all cut and paste pics with the crappiest photoshop cuts I've ever seen. The screenshots from "the game" are basically dev characters standing next to a generic "player character"


This is a thrown together Facade trying to milk the last of the cash they can get.


It doesn't cost too much to hire 1-3 script kiddies and set them on their own to clone an already existing system from peices of other games (jedi Knight series, asheron's call 2 -a known "Dev for dev engine game" in the field-, KoToR, and more.) These changes wreak of a LucasArts quickfix because this sounds more like a FPS change rather than an MMORPG change. No seasoned manager of an MMORPG would allow this to happen.

Message Edited by MikeHeXt on 11-04-2005 01:28 AM



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SurgeLestat
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:27 pm
#33

What you all don't get is that this wasnt just a sudden change that they pulled out of their $%#.


They have been working in secret for months on this.


You really think that they can make such a huge change over night. Come on!


They thought all this stuff through.



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MikeHeXt
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:30 pm
#34

Well obviously they didn't have us veterans in mind. They see us as collatoral damage rather than subscribers. They wouldn't keep changing things. Change = loss of money, as shown by the first CU.

We'll probably never know the real answer to this. But this is a sudden change, and doesn't seem too well planned.

Message Edited by MikeHeXt on 11-04-2005 01:31 AM



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thepulse
Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:13 am
#35


makes sense SOE,LA= pre CU game took off!!!!! But i always think LA has had a different vision of SWG there a great action based game company while SOE is everquest type of turn based due to tech of the time they went with turn based;;


SOE(solo) post CU.. game started to tank! became a cheap cliche of every other MMORPG..


LA(solo) CU2 ?????????????????????? we will see..


DId you all know the japan servers are still up but there not SOE there EA.. i see huge changes in the future!!!


thats why its so sudden and huge.

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MikeHeXt
Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:37 am
#36

I wonder if they're going to make mando armor easy to get too



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